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hbp 04-01-2014
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we are looking for a soft flexible end hose any sugestions, some uses firehose, but i dont think this is safe.


Michael C 04-01-2014
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Conforms makes a lay flat hose that is pressure rated for concrete pumping. It looks like a firehose but has a 4" HD end on it to connect to the boom.


DavidJS 04-01-2014
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umm, a fire hose wouldnt be that good of an idea. When we were on the broke side we bought large water suction hoses and had em crimp the couplings on them. Technically the psi wasnt rated for the pump and it is actually dangerous in instances like drill shafts. It lasts for maybe a month or so..  just a cheap alternative.


cp 04-01-2014
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I would recommend buying the Conforms fold flat hose, it is very robust and rated for the pressure you are working with. Talk to Tom Johnston @ Irving Equipment 419-937-4285 great company to deal with. It might cost a little more up front, but the few dollars extra are worth it. Conforms and Irving stand behind what they sell.

Never buy hose from JGB Eaglecrete. They successfully "hosed" us a while back and I still have not forgotten about it. Thanks again Quinn!


Dipstick 04-01-2014
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I worked a lot with these flat fold hoses and in my opinion they are dangerous. Several customers stoped using them after a while. You have to keep an eye on them at all times because they kink very easy and then explode. Watch ot for people that just want to make money on these. Just like the reducing hoses the will tell you its billiant. (only brilliant for their bank acount)


cp 04-01-2014
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Dipstick is right, the hose does want to kink if you try to push it sideways very far. I wouldnt recommend it for high volume pours, or jobs where the guy running the hose likes to go 5 different directions in 3 seconds. We really only use this type of hose for ICF's, mainly because you need to slow the mud down before to enters the wall form. Thats what this hose was designed to do, slow the mud down. It could be used for other things, dont get me wrong, some customers love them, some customers hate them, especially if they dont understand what they were designed to do. when it gets to that point i usually have to ask the guy running the hose if he wants me to, in the words of comedian Bill Engvall, "hold his sign" while he runs the hose...LOL


Michael C 04-01-2014
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I don't think the hoses are unsafe, you just have to use them in the right applications. They are not a good tip hose that is for sure. They are good for slow pours into syrofoam walls and even to pour walls if the rebar isn't too numerous to get it inside. I like to say us Operators have to have the "Dummy Overide Control." We have to make sure the person on the end of our hose doesn't do dumb things. We have to override their dumb decisions and steer them back to the right way to do things. As Operators we have to live with the fact that we hurt someone and it may have been something as simple as us telling them "No you can't do that with my pump. It's unsafe." I'd like to think that the bosses out there will support their Operators decisions to not do unsafe actions in the field and not threaten them with their jobs for disobeying a customers request.

 


Mr.HighRise 04-01-2014
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I know for a fact as far as hose whippings are concerned the mudd snake is the safest device out in the market, I saw a test first hand when we drilled a hole a foot from the ends of a lay flat a standard four inch and an antiwhip hose and put a bolt through the hole, primed the pump then put a four inch hard ball in the hose went pump on to simulate a plug and release the standard four inch did as we've all seen on bad days the antiwhip hose was about half as violent but the winner was the mud snake that did not whip in any direction ... if I knew how to post videos I would to show what I saw

PedroALL5Z 04-04-2014
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Lay flat hoses should only be used for certain applications. They are not designed to replace a drop hose and are can dangerous if used wrong . We use them to fill styro walls ( to slow the rate of pour)  and to drop in between rebar when it is tight instead of jamming a standard hose down. These need to be used by an attentive operator and hose man.  


PedroALL5Z 04-04-2014
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sorry the reason they can be dangerous is if the people using it are not paying attention a plug can lead to a burst and give the hose man a concrete shower.


Beast 04-04-2014
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guys anything that is misused can be dangerous, I've used hoses like this before, if used in the correct application with a experienced and knowledgable operator they are a useful tool , now in my limited experience with reducing hoses to me it is a useless risk when the same objective can be reached by putting on a STEEL reducer, rubber will swell and allow a what would be plug to be pressured through these hoses with little or no warning causing a very dangerous hose whip,


Unkle 04-10-2014
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Kinda defeats the purpose of a no double-ended tip hose.


PedroALL5Z 04-11-2014
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pumpnfinish you out trolling? the lay flats are not a useless gadget, they are great under the correct applications. You cant control your flow with a 4inch standard drop the same way thats a fact.