Tough call?
Many 10-01-2011
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To me,a doable pour.


pumpjockey 10-01-2011
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I think it was not a high risk job.  I would never boom over lines, but under - with enough clearance.  Could use a 5" drop hose to increase the clearance.  Could also use a shorter hose to increase it more, though it would reduce the hoseman's coverage area and be harder to push, but those are minor considerations.  I would pump slower while under the 'danger zone'

In a case like this, the power company should be called to 'boot' the lines.   I would imagine that there will be cranes working much closer to the lines on that site in the future.


pumpjockey 10-01-2011
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But it's all about your comfort level.  You made the right call for yourself.


pumpjockey 10-01-2011
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It's a 20 foot rule now.


N.D.Fuccillo 10-01-2011
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Definitely a great call....next time give the super the remote and see how quickly his attitude changes...way to stand up and say NO!!!


pink panther 10-01-2011
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Definately plenty of room under the lines but only do what you are comfortable with. You do not want to get nervous and hurt anyone because you felt like you had to do something. You made the right call for your comfort level.


Drew AUS 10-02-2011
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Forget about comfort level and all the other rubbish we can all do it no worries but at the end of the day its illegal and its illegal for a good reason .. Say something went wrong with your remote and one of the stages got stuck on up?? Its happend to me !! Or for some reason you put your remote down and forget to turn it off and it rolls over activating one of the stages ?? or someone distracts you and you have a 10 sec brain fade? You could almost become a mass murderer in a matter of seconds lol .. Another thing.. Call your insurance company and ask if your coverd doing that? Good  Luck

Seriously whats wrong with starting the pour from one side working out towards the power lines when your at your leagal limit , pack up go around the other side put one 4m double ender and a 10m whip on ( Witch will be plenty enough hose to get the job done) then take it off when your safe and finish the job , you could have put your hose out there before you started in the morning so there will be no major delays ....... Seems to easy .

Good desition to walk away pretty sad that your manager said it was ok to do it though and even worse that the other operator didnt stand by you.


yoda 10-02-2011
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good on ya for saying no,just been through some hydro training after a contact with a line(14400 volts) some time no is the only answer  


95schwing 10-02-2011
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There is not 20' of clearance, so nobody should do it. But that's the problem isn't it, people will still do it and companies will still insist their operators break the rules to get the job done. I am so glad I'm out of pumping.


Mister_Perkins 10-02-2011
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Where do you find the rule books for what you can do and what you cannot do?


TooTall 10-02-2011
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Using a five inch whip hose eliminates the reducer & gets you 3 feet further from the wires... 


Pump N00b 10-02-2011
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I would do it, but I would put on 10 meters of 3 inch and make them drag it just becaue of their supers attitude, wich is the same as most customers unfortunately...


pumpdaddy#1 10-03-2011
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Its guys like that super that keep me in business guys like you keep the industry safe the way it should be!!!! any time you are uncomfortable with a pour ask question if you dont know and if you do know that its wrong stick to your guns!!!! great call! we use hydro for lights and cooking not blowing tires off of pumps!!!!


PumpKid_88 10-03-2011
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laws 17 but 20 is the way if u cant be 20 thay will see my tail lights no joke i love my job but i love my life a little more just sayin gos for short rig and un safe things im just the type to say im not gna do it if it aint safe


N.D.Fuccillo 10-03-2011
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Mister Perkins, you can get all that info from the ACPA, and the videos to go along with it


Drew AUS 10-05-2011
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Good point!!!!!


rusty22 10-05-2011
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Glad you brought the real 20ft rule into play. Your boom can,t come any closer than 20ft fully extended. We go by the crane rules,that is there rule the boom can't come within 20ft.with boom length.