Was just wondering how many guys on here have run an 80's schwing 36 meter (I run an 1985), and think that it is a hard truck to run? I'm still new to running a pump. The biggest obstacle I'm having right now is when I'm going out/extending the boom and turning far out. I am ok bringing the boom in and have an easier time turning as well. I feel like its taking me awhile to get this truck down to operate smoothly and to do a good job for customers. I've done about 10 jobs with the pump so far over about 3 months. The only thing I can think to do to get better is go on my own time to the shop and set up a job with cones. I'm also thinking that finding a good RPM to run at is an issue with the truck. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. 

I operated a 1986 36 meter.  It took me about 700 hours to get 'smooth' with it.   I always prefered to work the boom 'in' towards the truck whenever possible.  Even with my new 42 meter REED pump with proportional controls it was smoother to bring the boom in than out.

Oh boy. The good old days of black and white controls. Don't miss em much.

I ran a 85' schwing 36m for over 2 years and still had a little bounce when i operated it. 80% of my work was residental walls. Its a heavy boom to get smooth with, but over time it gets easier. Booming in toward your self is alot better than going out with it. I'm taking a guess its a black and white?

That's the old 36 heavy,hard machine to get stable.

Mine was stable on the poutriggers, but if you are referring to the induced flex in the boom....FOR SURE!!

I had 3 turret slewing speeds, I wished it would have had that for the boom functions, I used the engine speed to controll that, and adjusted the pumping cylinder volume control accordingly.  Luckily never had any high-volume pumping jobs.  40 - 60 yds per hour was fast in my area.  usually 25 - 40 though.

u r all right...running the trpump is a whole baleancing act between the outriggers, the slewing speeds, the right rpm to run at, and I am always adjusting my volume because no job is the same....and the truck is black and white.

I am always wondering how I will do when we upgrade in the future to a pump with proportional controls? I hear the new pumps are a lot easier to control with proportional instead of black and white....how many of you realized a difference for it being easier or harder?

When i moved to another company i ran all putz year 02' and up. Its night and day, once you train your self to just lay into the controls instead of bumping them you'll be alright. Its like going from a atari to a playstation in my opinion. I'm alot smoother, i can keeep a tip hose 3" form the top of a wall all the way around. I believe me running a old blk. and white made me a smoother operator.

N.D.Fuccillo, I think in the North east your company has the only standard kvm 36 , in the last decade I have only came across 4 of them. One in Cali. one in Philly one in NJ and yours.They have a good pump kit but as you are well aware of they also have some very unique quirks.

If you can handle the black/white controls on your 36,you will be very impressed when your company upgrades to a proportional control system.But it will take just a little time to understand to ease into the controls versus just the bump and  tap method.

But any way you cut it, its pretty impressive that you have a 26 year old schwing that can still produce and makes your company the same amount of money as a brand new pump.Goes to show you that with a good maintenance program these machines last a very long time.

Interesting story from Schwing e-letter I got about a kvm 36 like yours.

Schwings just keep on pumping
Schwing distributer Pumpcrete in Niagara Falls, Canada sent these photos of the first Schwing 36-meter sent to Canada in 1980. Thirty-one years later the same pump is headed to Dubai. That’s a testament to the longevity of Schwing equipment and the attention to maintenance that Pumpcrete applies to their equipment. This was no cream puff, as Pumpcrete has pumped millions of yards of concrete over the years. More and more older Schwing pumps are finding buyers overseas.  An interesting side note is that in 1980 this 36-meter was the longest boom in Canada when it was first delivered.

If your new to the machine,there are 2 hyd tanks and sight guages.One front one rear,don't forget to check.

boom inspector- I Co-owned one in va from 04' to 09'. When i left in 09' the other 2 guys sold it over seas in early 10'. Same pump as N.D. has. I actually thought it was the same pump, but ours was white instead of cream. 

You think the 36 is tough to operate you should try a B&W 42. I operate the 36 like yours for awhile and hated the thing. The 3 speed swing lever was tied to high because it wouldnt stay there. When I first got on it I thought maybe the pressures were off but no it was just the nature of that beast. Control is all through RPM, I never ran it in high RPMs, or it would be absolutely Satanic. I dont think anything over 32 meters should be B&W.

The 36 is a great pump, and was obviously well built and I think over engineered.  I also strongly agree that no pump over a 32 should be black and white because our other pump is an 85' 32, and I have an easier time running that pump then the 36.  Not only is the boom on the 36 hard to get use to, but the outrigger system has to be one of the worst designs, even though it is a very stable and strong.  When I go to set up on a job it must take me 10 to 20 mins just for the outrigger set up.

I always am checking my hydraukic tanks because the truck does leak. Practiced over the weekend with the truck.  I'm not giving up, gonna keep getting better with this pump, and Its not gonna defeat me.  I feel a litte more confident and comfortable everytime I run this beast.

Once you gain confidence it gets easier.I ran the only 36 heavy our branch had (20-25 pumps) and made a good living,nobody else wanted to run it.You bet it was over designed,great pump,1200 pump kit.As with all the b/w set square with the pour helps.Wait till you get your 1st proportional boom,thw change will blow your mind.

Yea Biskt, I should have just said I have not run into that many of those standard 36 meter schwings, there are a couple of reasons for that too. owners usually know that if they have that old of a machine inspected it will cost them a bunch in repairs, So they avoid the inspection process all together .

Ive worked on ND Fuccillo's pump years ago and he is right about the outriggers being slow ,but once set up they are a very stable machine. And another good thing is his machine has had the update done to the outriggers and front console when it was owned by another company just north of him,so it is no wonder that it is still pumping and being a profitable peice of equipment,This pump will make you appreciate a praportional when you get one for sure.It is a perfect machine to learn on because it most likely will be the hardest one you ever ran . LOL