28 year old CPOkilled homeowner in Germany
chico777 03-26-2009
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Thats what happened last year Oct. 08 in Germany. After short time of training a company which wouldnt pay for a good experiencend CPO and sended out a young guy who sucked the sponge 2 strokes back and took off for the next job and after start pumping without concrete comming out of the tiphose. The hose was plugged and shortly after the hose was dancing and going around the homeowner who was the guy on the hose get hit on his head and killed. The CPO gets 1 year on probation and a 3000$Can. (2000€) fine.

chico777 03-26-2009
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Thats what its like pumping over here. They dont pay for a good guy they preffer train a guy and send him out asap.

chico777 03-26-2009
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You are right in case to sue the company but i tell you something. This poor bastard was propably happy to earn 15-16 bucks p.h. so he didnt had a clue about what can happen with such a machine. For me in my opinion they should teach the guys well. You know how you learn pumping by troubleshooting yourself now everybody knows what can happen if you are pouring with 2% of calcium and fibermash and moving to the next job instanly. What do you think who explains you something noone you learn it and go trough or you leave it, Pumpers i know in germany they know everything thats what they think but these guys say " I am wondering what you are doing when you are plugged" but they dont tell you. Where i worked in Canada there was also a German guy he knows everything and instead to be thankfull to the guys who want to help him he pissed them away so nobody liked him and after a couple of time he tipped 2 guys of the wall thats what that is about knowing all. For me as i arrived in Canada it was like"Hey its impossible to have people offering help" but therefore i can not say a bad thing about those guys they are helpfull and and you can comunicate easily with em, its a hard thing up north working with minus 30 celsius but its possible and those guys keep it going.

Todd 03-26-2009
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Very sad, I think this is soooo sad.

Chubby 03-26-2009
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that is so true and and shitty thing about this trade and yea that company should be sued along with that operator

photographer 03-27-2009
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I wrote Operating Manuals for 16 Years for Thomsen Concrete Pumps. For the 780,790,A4, A3, 640A,640b,740,747,HP747,HP2001, HP800Series, we were sued many times, but 99.9% of the time it was operator error, the Operation Manuals were most explicite in the dangers of operating this machinery. Yet operators would stand on the hopper grates and fall into the agitator, stick their hands in a flapper box and lose it, boom in to high tension wires....no matter how many times or caution signs you could put on a piece of equipment, it still happened, outriggers we not set or set on muddy areas, booms fell over and killed deck workers, or you would catch someone using a boom as a crane lifting more than the recommended lifting capacity at the tip, then they would go on the job with a stressed boom and it would fail over the deck....the product libality became so expensive that it was passed on to the customer in the price of the equipment....it was very sad to see the destruction caused by lack of concern, safety, not following the manuals, no manufacture wants to deliver equipment that maims, or kills anyone, but the construction industry as does the pumping industry train its operators and hire ones that can read an operation manual and understand it.. I can remember customers that could not sign their name on a contract , only an X, so you can see the problem of writing operating manuals................

Eldon


chico777 03-27-2009
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Well thats amazing people have the to buy pumps but not being able to write. But specially in the US i think some dumpasses can sue everybody for everything. Thats good in one hand if there is really a case which involves impairment caused by others and then this person have to pay you some hundreds of thousands or even millions. But for a manuals writer i think that can bee a bad part and you are right saying those guys should read the manual and think about it. How much would be the fine for that particular operator like i explained in the US?.