Tiago40m | 01-07-2009 | comment profile send pm notify |
Yesterday pumped 300yds.
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bri | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I SURE AS HELL HOPE THOSE POWER LINES YOU ARE BOOMING OVER ARE TURNED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!! IF THEY ARE NICE PICS IF NOT SHAME ON YOU!!!! |
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HawgDawg | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
A few observations-
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Tiago40m | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Hey bri, everything under control. I know better than that. Those are telephone lines. i was a little bit close to them. But spoke with the guys and they said NO HAZARD, so everything is ok. I dont really know what the deal is with ACPA and these types of lines but so far i've heard that are NO HAZARD. I would like actually to know whats Bobs opinion about this matter. |
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bri | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I was on a job like ten yrs ago similar to yours. They told me no worries man. I told the Contractor to keep hitting the wires with a piece of rebar for 10 minutes and if he lives I might consider it after the office approves it and the electric co. comes out to verify. To make a long story short he said hell no to touching the lines with rebar and no to the rest I asked him. I just feel it is not worth others lives as well as mine. If you are ok then im ok with all you did Im glad no one was hurt. dont wanna see u fried |
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Bob | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I wasn't there, but suspect that they might be power lines. I would need a closer look. I have never seen phone or cable lines that high on a 'light pole'. Good spot, Bri. Perhaps they are zappers and killers, I just can't tell from the pics. Every company should make sure that their operators can differentiate between power lines and phone lines. One obvious difference is that phone and cable lines are not insulated from the poles and are on the bottom of the ‘stack’. Take your time looking at these differences and make yourself familiar with what is what. Check out where they lead when they are routed away from the pole into a structure. Look for insulation/isolation. The phone company does not want their cable energized and will take care to see that their cable is kept away from the power cables in the area. If you cannot tell the difference, don’t risk it. If there is any question – do the safe thing and consider it a power line. Talk to your Phone Company and Power Company. Have someone from those companies come to one of your safety meetings. Listen and learn, we ALL have something to learn. ;~)
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Bob | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
My slow ass internet connection just 'developed' ALL of the pics. Looks to me like you are boomed over power lines for sure. Are they energized? Only one way to KNOW , Get the man from the power company to tell you, that is the OSHA way. You must get that information from the company that operates those lines, You cannot rely on the contractor for that information; If he tells you a lie, YOU are still responsible PS; A company that I used to work for got an $800.00 fine for just standing on a deck without a proper safety rail. All and all; that job doesn't look like a safe place to work. |
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green gold | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
"The concrete service was off the hook, never seen so good service..." I have worked with Kings on a couple of jobs in the past and I agree that they make life so much easier with the fantastic service that they offer....thumbs up! P.S nice piece of iron |
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Bob | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Does the "Kings" company operate many pumps? |
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Tiago40m | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yeah BOB kings have 6 or 7 lines pumps and 1or 2 boom pumps. Hey gold green where are you located???? |
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Paint Master | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
very nice pics, where are you located?? TAIG |
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Paint Master | 01-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
never mind, just checked the maps :)
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38zman | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Nice pics for sure and yes those are power lines 7500 volt lines to be exact It looks like you were in a old part of the city anyway they should be capped If you look close on some of the photos you see the conections and cable and phone are always on the botton of the pole I have done alot of city work and if they dont cap them we dont pump plain and simple. Not here to bash you by any means never take a builders word for it because they are always wrong....lol |
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Many | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I saw those lines after the posting,not wanting to be the first.Just a random call to the utility provider stating they may be booming over power lines should be a good start.The very "least" they should be booted. http://www.emissourian.com/site/news.cfm?brd=1409&pag=1006&newsid=18975746 |
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green gold | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Tiago40m, I work out of westchester.
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Tiago40m | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Well i want to make nice and clear. |
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Bob | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I don't think that anyone here has any doubts about you. You will do the right thing. ;~) |
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Todd | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Sorry Bri i had to delete your picture, that was just too gross. A dead burnt guy is just to much for me Here is bri's post without the picture. I dont think u are a bad operator at all. Maybe u just let your guard down. Plz dont ever do it again. We love you man! U are our brother. I can say so many things about what u did but u r alive and I am thankful. Those were POWER LINES man! Happy pumping and pour it out and be safe my friend:) |
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Tiago40m | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
What happen to bri s comment??? |
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Tiago40m | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Never mind. |
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truckshow | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I thank god you're alive and everyone around your pump and tip hose is still alive... Come on.... That is why we use detach. placement! Say a prayer man...God was with you and that jobsite!! |
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Many | 01-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Tiago I can personally say from me to you one thing.We may believe you may have been had.There are so very many contractors out there that believe it's "ok' to boom over power lines.Please,in the interest of safety make that call,should the utility think it's "ok" then contact "osha". Over the past 25+ years you could not believe the stories the superintendents have told to get us to do unsafe things.I for one could not continue because I was stuipid and hurt someone,or worse. We all want you to be aware of the tricks some will use to do this,I only pray i'm wrong.My personal fav is the last operator did this.Yes,I have been kicked off jobs,but I can't say here what I told them.I'm alive and sorta well,so is everyone else. My respect to you from a very old operator
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bri | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I thought u might delete it Todd thats ok but it is what happens when u hit the lines. |
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Doug | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
You're not only boomed over wires but you have three of the four outriggers shortrigged? Including the left front on the boom side? Pics three and four appear to have it short while the later pics look like it was extended. Was it shorted and then extended later in the pour??? |
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FunnyBoom | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Doug, I think you may be being deceived by the tree. It looks like the tree is blocking the last bit of the outrigger in the picture. There is all sorts of stuff in the way from those angles. |
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Doug | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I think you're right. He's probably only shortrigged on the off side, which I'm not condoning because we don't do it here. But I know many do and it's allowed in many places. |
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FunnyBoom | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I dont like to do it when I have that much stick straight up it the air. There is alot of leverage there and who knows what could happen. A big blast of air and alot of surge or a plug and release could cause alot of boom surge which in my opinion with that much stick in the air could create a pretty bad leverage situation. I have shortrigged many of times but that is one situation where i do everything in my power to not short rig. |
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FunnyBoom | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Not to bash his set up or anything but he is also past the line of his drivers side outrigger which is not supposed to happen when you are shortrigging. He should not be swinging past the angle of his drivers side front but to reach the end of that pour he is quite a bit over the front of the truck. I know city pumping is tough especially with such a big pump Tiago, not here to bash you just observing. I like the pictures wish I could have more but im not allowed to take them on the site im working on. |
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Tiago40m | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Ok now this is getting way off control 1st who the is stupid enough to shortrrig the side that you are working on ?????? Come on 2nd The outrigger that is on the opposite side is 2 feet from being all the way extended so the fact that i passed the line on the other outrigger isnt causing a big problem. 3rd Maybe i boomed over power lines or maybe not. Its still a open case. If i did than i was fooled by a site manager who told me otherwise. i'm sorry but if some of you had to come to work in new york and around, none of you would last here long. |
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bri | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
his outriggers are just fine it may look like he is past the front rigger zone but he is not. As far as the poer lines it was a mistake due to the contractor telling him other wise I am so happy our friend was able to post these pics. This is a place of learning. We all make mistakes. I have been doing this 22 yrs now and mess up all the time We are ppl. Todd U should of kept my pic up it was gross but makes u think twice about power lines man. Turn down the pumps fellows we need to milk em out times are slow:) |
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FunnyBoom | 01-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
No its not out of control at all. I told you I know it is hard to get those big pumps set up in cities. But if you read the acpa manual you are to far over the front of the truck because that outrigger is not fully extended whether it is almost all the way out or not. Just stating ACPA rules. I know that it worked out fine and it probably would everytime but if you look at the acpa manual anytime you are shortrigged you should not pass that point. I dont want you to stop posting pics because I love seeing them. Just take anything any of us say to heart and maybe one day it could save something bad from happening. |
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Rookie | 01-10-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Who took the safety rail down? OR WAS IT EVER IN PLACE. Just one infraction on the Generals part.Thought I would shift gears. Curious to know if there is a J.H.A.performed on this just. Just curious. I know things are done differently through out. I always thought that the safety part did not alter! |