70m putz trailer?????
The Cat 02-04-2008
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back in 1997 at pochin\'s i was given the first new putz 52 to be brought in to the country ..when they were looking in to it they toy\'d with the idea of a trailer mount\'d 52 but went for the truck mount\'d one thank god.....what i\'m wondering about is has many people seen trailer mount\'d 52\'s????? what i\'m Curious about is how difficult the new 70m would be to get to and from site and how hard it would be setting up on site and having to move it around a site to


Many 02-04-2008
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I have seen the trailer 52\'s and they can be a problem on jobsites.The common enemies are of course wet/mud,just bad soil as in compaction,jobsite conditions such as area,all they things you see daily.These problems are now multiplied by using the trailer.I would say at this point operator understanding of basic tractor trailer knowledge is formost.Also educating the contractor is another concern,want the bigger boom then they have to plan for it just like moving a crane.

With that being said keep in mind these are some really big pieces of heavy equipment and heavy to.Yes you can jack knife on on mud,not reserved for ice and snow only.They are top heavy and will go over in a heartbeat.

It will surely be a learning curve for everyone involved,the price of the future.

 

 


The Cat 02-04-2008
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your right about trying to teach these muppet\'s on site....what get\'s me is when a crane turn\'s up every thing\'s moved and sort\'d.... i opperate a 63 at the moment and only some times is there a job site thats thought about what\'s turning up to do the job they want doin...

Nate 02-04-2008
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OBrien\'s has a few trailor mounted 52\'s...

http://www.obrienpumping.com/equipment%20pages/618.html

http://www.obrienpumping.com/equipment%20pages/621.html

http://www.obrienpumping.com/equipment%20pages/622.html


The Cat 02-04-2008
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there great pic\'s thanks....them unit\'s look like a bit of hassle not like a truck mount\'d unit..... sure would like to see the 70m unit on a site..

Bob 02-04-2008
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Putz sold a bunch of them

typesdubs 02-04-2008
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Is it correct these trailer mounted units have their own seperate engines? horsepower?

Bob 02-04-2008
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MAN diesel

it is a flatpack like a bus engine

I have never worked on one but people tell me that they are a pain


OldSchool2 02-04-2008
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the 70m is 70ft. long it has 10 axels ,weighs175,000lbs and is a semi trailer. the 2 rear steer. the front axel on the truck drives.

OldSchool2 02-04-2008
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bob we know where7 or 8 of them were at. i know one vet.operator who loves them.

Bob 02-04-2008
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OLDSCHOOL-2

I was talking about FIXING the engine, not operating the pump.

As far as operating the pump goes, most operators said they liked the \"T&T\" set up.

Hey T. how many did youall order? ;~)


oregonfan6285 02-05-2008
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in my opinion the putz trailer 52z is the best designed pump. it is so versatile. my dad runs a trailer 52 and i run a 52 straight truck. his turns so much better than mine plus you will never get stuck on a jobsite. well unless its like mud or something. you can turn the trailer 52 around 360 degress without even getting inside the cab. o and that pic is of a trailer 50 meter not a 52 

typesdubs 02-05-2008
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Correct me if I\'m wrong, but if they are so great why don\'t they make them anymore? I\'ve always been fascinated with them though I\'ve never seen one in person around NJ. Could you detach the pump from the truck and still use it?

Bob 02-05-2008
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Speedy

You are right, the tractor must be attached. The trailer has a hyd\' cyl\' on the front with a hook on the end. The tractor has a 6\" x 1\" bar bolted across the two frame members. A chain attaches the truck to the trailer and the truck is lifted with the hyd\' cyl\' to provide the counterweight mass needed for overall stability. Unless someone wanted the op to pull into a mud hole or on loose sand it was well accepted by the people that  operated them.

I hope that if they begin to once again mfg\' these units for the American market that they are mounted on trailers with American running gear, not the EU stuff that is not in stock and costs too much. 


oregonfan6285 02-05-2008
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the tractor is used as a counter weight. the trailer has a hook that hooks to the frame of the tractor. for the question on can you use the pump with out the tractor. yes it will function but very unsafe because it is used as a counter weight. my dads pump is a 2001 thats the newest one that i know of i am sure you could still get one brand new it would just be a special order or something. i think they are more expensive too.

typesdubs 02-06-2008
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Thanks for clearing that up guys. good post