Lucent | 07-05-2015 | comment profile send pm notify |
Hi everyone, |
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barron | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
It's not the mix , it's the finisher |
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Lucent | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
When you say it's the finisher - just poor workmanship then? What can be done to provent this with the repour? |
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Salapalooza | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
Get a better finsiher. That is what happens when people do things that is way over their head. |
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Michael C | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
All I see wrong is technique. The finisher needs to do a much better job. Also a very small vibrator or tapping the forms might have helped get rid of some of your voids. Finishing concrete is a skill, not just hand a guy a trowel... |
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Lucent | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
Thanks everyone. Our General Contractor might use another concrete sub based on our crappy results from the first go around. What questions should I be asking the concrete sub pre pour to make sure we don't have this happen again? I've asked for pictures, asking them to provide technical examples that they are capable of executing such a stair, but any other questions I should be asking would be helpful. |
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Trey | 07-05-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
Just throwing this out there, Why cant you just sack it? It would save you a lot of money if its just cosmetic. |
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crazycreter | 07-07-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
if its made of concrete and its fukt, it must be pump operator error! |
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ericICF | 07-07-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
Doesn't look like a mix issue. Small rock mixes usually finish well. This finisher did not use a pencil vibrator and the result is the rock you see. It really is unfortunate. Stairs... both formwork and finishing take a lot more work than people realize. Lots of these types of stairs are pre-cast on their side edges in a plant, and flown or hoisted into place. Site casting, as you now know can be hit and miss. Durlach Industries in Bradenton Florida are experts in precast stairs. |
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PUMBO | 07-08-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
I've seen worse that have been repaired with grout or tiled, and then painted. Demolition job is going to the extreme. |
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ahssci | 07-09-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
Stairs/stepa are a Bit$h. Need to strip while green and rub/work the edges. Time consuming and costly. We try to up the bag mix to help out. Vibrating is tough because of the constant blow out from the face form. Lightly tapping on forms with a hammer will help with the honey combs on the surface. |
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Beast | 07-09-2015 | reply profile send pm notify |
I'd go with a 7 sack low gravel about 1,300 lbs and 1700 lbs of sand and pour on a 5-6" slump and get a pencil vibrator and these issues could be avoided . |