cool pics., how do you like the 38Z?

The 38z is an awesome machine to run i love it

Put them back wheels on the ground son.... You aint runnin' no crane. That hopper was dancin' around like crazy back there.

if it's anything like our 40Z, the pump is much more stable pumping over the front end when most of the weight has been lifted off of the rear axles... I am guessing the tires are completely off the ground in order get the pump level within 3 degrees?

When you hang over the front, the 3 degrees refers to side to side not front to back. I don't care what kind of pump it is.... if you got the ass end off the ground the hopper will float back there... plus it makes your swing from side to side jumpy ( not smooth ).

the trucks a counter weight and a counter weight doesnt do much if its sitting in the ground

MUDDY. Some pumps are designed to have the wheels of the ground. I just got a 42 putz where you just have to lift them up. Otherwise the outriggers come loose when you go all out over the front. Putz also prescribes all the wheels up.

But I totaly agree with you that its less stable. The whole chassis is just hanging there and whobling from side to side and up and down. You also get much more (all) sideways pressure on the outriggers. Think if a mixer would crash in to you.  It would be much better if they would design all pumps so that the (rear) wheels stay on the ground. I always keep them down as soon as its possible.

does it have one-touch?  That may be why he is trying to get it so level.

Or, he could just like the way the boom works when the truck is set up that way.  Some truck chassis, when suspended, absorb some of the pump force when you are moving a lot of volume.

Or, the pumping Gods could just let people post pics without criticizing every little thing.

Well I run the same pump Putz 36 Z and I have NEVER picked my back wheels up (I lift the weight off the suspension, but the tires stay on the ground) and I can stretch flat out and it will not bounce an inch. Operator preferrence I guess.

Or the man is just doing his job the right way. If Putz prescribes wheels off the ground than it should be wheels of the ground. Specialy in the US where the rules are holy. 

But if you prefer to not follow them its OK with me!! I dont always stick to the rules eighter. ;-)

believe that the 3 degree rule does also apply when booming over the front/back of the machine as structural damage can be caused to outriggers ect. from the fore and aft forces incurred when pumping on a slope with the machine out of level, as well the possibility of the pump shifting up/down slope. 52Putz makes a good point also, to my knowledge the EBC electronics need to be within 3 degrees to function properly. Anyways, it would be interesting to hear a manufacturers take on this topic..... Great pics., beautiful machine, thanks for sharing!

It aint the outriggers i would be worried about when referring to the 3 degree rule. It's the slewing cylinders.

aint that your nickname muddy (smooooth) you one heck of an operator i should know i was there when you started!

if your within 3 degrees and the riggers are tight the best place for the wheels would be on the ground to keep the truck tight but you cant keep your wheels on the ground every job. just ask smoooth

Just my two cents, wheels alway on the ground or shore it. If machine does this wiggle, yes asking for seal issues on riggers. I do find it rare Putz would say yes to this. But hey we work in the mountains allot. So we need brakes on and wheels on ground. I always shore up wheels if need be.

agreed, putting a little lumber (if you have it handy) under the back wheels is definitely a great solution!

That's the way you do it. Thanks for sharing the picture.