more and more concrete co's trying to make a sale have stuck there nose's in our buisiness ..WHAT THE HELL.the most resent that i've heard about is CEMEX offering a pump up to thirty cy'd for a flat rate of three hundred bucks..yes THREE HUNDREND DOLLARS and not a line pump,but a BOOM any size.how can anyone compete with that?? talking about to good to be true. customers will eat that up.and the industry of pumping will keep right on suffering.how is this good for anyone? and with CEMEX offering there little deal of the century other suppliers are following suit.trying to get rock bottom priceing from other pump co's.they still make there money for the concrete,and now want to control the pumping as well;  going to far i think......

As a matter of fact I think working with a RM company that has pumps would be the ideal situation.Control,control,control,yes,slip in a little set retarder if you please.

Ready mix companies should not have pumps we have one here and its the same story ,you use our mud the pump is free or next to it ,they have done pumping for under 20 bucks a pour so i am told by the other readymix company that seen the ticket. I have yet to see a company here that does a good job at both, in fact they generally suck at both, so in order to get anyone to buy from them they go cheap.

HEY PUMPERCHUCK, THATS JUST A RUMOR. THERES NO WAY THAT CEMEX IS GOING TO DO THAT. MY REASONING IS THAT I HAVE A BUDDY THAT SELLS PARTS TO CEMEX, AND THEY ARE ON CREDIT CARD ONLY. SO IF THEY CAN'T PAY THERE BILLS, THERES NO WAY THEY BOUGHT A FLEET OF PUMPS AND ONLY GONNA CHARGE $300.00. THINK ABOUT IT.

when you start getting into the bigger, nationalized, or even regionalized companies, they should be sticking with their speciality.  If it's making concrete, or pumping it.  As far as the smaller companies are concerned I'm six one way half dozen the other.  I can't imagine charging fees like that for a boom pump (won't even cover daily operating costs).  I work for a small, family owned rm plant on a rural island in washington, and i run a boom and line pump for them, so I can understand a company needing both sets of income.  that being said, the pump rate doesn't change, whether it's our concrete of someone elses.  I will say it is very nice as an operator to call YOUR dispatch, and ask to hold trucks, get another truck put on the pour, change admixtures, etc.  you know you'll get what you're asking for.

listen I work 4 a RM company and it works out better i can call 4 where my next truck is i have more control of loads and we have very competitive prices and the benefit of working 4 a RM company is i carry retarder,aier,and allegro its nice to have control of your loads and you know its good pumpable mud.

but i do see where you guys are coming from some of the operators that work 4 the RM company are not that skilled at pumping,but as far as myself and the other operator here the customer does not mind paying a little more 4 quality EXAMPLE about a year ago our mixer drivers went on strike that was the busiest week we ever had 10 jobs that week 4 2 pumps, the customers knew they would get good pumping service we pumped some of the easiest jobs i have ever done footings that could easily be done from the trucks walls and slabs as well and i always hear from the customer "some operators just dont want to work with the me they do their own thing" and thats why they like to use our company thats just my experience here

As far as i know we have never given away a pump if they use our concrete we have flow charges,line charges,Prime charges,fuel charges and sometimes tool charges and a 4hr minimum and a fee for going over 4hr. to give a pump away is just stupid but i guess some RM companys are that desperate to sell thier mud we do have some like that around here and it is very aggravating.

There's some around here that are trying it. One thing is they'll only get recommendations to pump there own mud. Could you survive on pumping only one plants mud?

actually i pump other peoples mud quite often even if that company has their own pump we have a very good reputation around here word of mouth is a gr8 tool

i believe yall have it wrong..cemex is not buying a pump nor do they own one they have a pump company do it for them an they only pour 20-30 yards on each slab an ur only there bout 2 hours an alot of times they do 2-3 a day an usually there all side by side so i dont think thats a bad morning

FYI - Cemex probably owns the largest boom pump fleet in the world. (Yes, more than BB/JLS). However, none of them are in the US as far as I know. If they choose to supply concrete pumps in the US, they can. That being said, if they didn't start when it was busy, I don't think they would now. 

All the concrete companies over here had pump fleets one time, they use them as a tool to sell concrete. They pump cheap because they think that they can make the price back up on the sale of the concrete, in time it dawns on them that the money lost in running a pumping operation has to come off the profit on the concrete.  The concrete salesman, has targets to make each month on his concrete and if he has to give the customer a pump to sell 500m of concrete then so be it. It will go in huge circle, rm companies owning pumps, then realising the costs and getting rid. Having said that,a couple of concrete companies seem to have it right at the moment over here, using outside contractors then adding a percentage on for themselves  as and when the  contractor wants the whole package, same as when we supply concrete with the pump.

 It's only going to get worse. With pumps selling for as cheap as they are more & more RM companies will have their own pumps.

 There's a simple solution... Tell 'em if they want to get in the business of pumping concrete then they better be able to pump ALL of their concrete that needs to be pumped. They may reconsider when customers are calling the other company because you dont pump their concrete.

 The above does how ever require a joint effort to be very effective.

We have a rm company around here with one pump between 3 plants they seem to keep busy,but with just their own mud, and with only one pump they kinda of got to play favorites with who gets it. Kinda of a thorn in my side but not a really bad threat. They are cheaper but if it's booked I don't feel I have to drop my prices to compete when customers can't get it anyway

Lucky Holcim bought out Cemex here before thay could do it here .......

just had to pay commercial board of realtors $440- bucks as for member requirements of the local multable listing service that i have fees currently due.

thinking that equipment operators should be better organized to keep the riff raff out of the business, other wize most of you guys are considered truck drivers that should jump into the next rig for a company that can pay your wages.

do not get me wrong i have a lot of years of investment into a decent part time job thats gone. but iam still getting the bills and buying parts just from this winters weathering on both units. 

fyi doug im talkin about here in the states cause i kno exactly what chuck is talkin about

nc pumper it's not a rummor it's fact. cemax has teamed up with a local pumper and offered a deal on the pumping.and is now in the works.$300.00 flat rate for 30cyds or less. 

its only in time b4 we will work for nuttin we got a crew out by me that is 4 man crew and by golly thay do lintle i do for 300+ there doin for 175 tell me whats rong witht his now pretty effed up but i under stand about the shake an bake truck to offer some line pumps but the price is un beatable just dnt no what to do any more we dnt needa brake our back for nuttin ya no but thats the way the con world is be comeing to be now