Todd | 03-13-2010 | comment profile send pm notify |
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precision pumped | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
lol made me smile |
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pumpjockey | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Looks like a heavy unit. Just how much material can it carry? Very specialized. |
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typesdubs | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
How do you get a balance to it? |
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Many | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Makes one wonder about the practicality of a unit like this.Granted the engineering must have been fun,a used pickup would be cheaper. |
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Seed | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
That is ridiculous! |
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Telealbelt | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Now throw on about 300' of system and extra water to wash it all up. What were they thinkin? |
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pumpjockey | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
That's Duane Remus of REED in the video, he looks proud, and rightly so. But I gotta wonder as to the practicality. even so, it'll work for somebody out there. |
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Todd | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I think its a great idea for its market. I dont know why seed has to be so negative. Maybe you wont buy one seed but they do have a market for it or they would not of built it. |
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murf | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
should have put it on 8 wheeler then stuck a 24ish m boom up front, then you wouldnt need to carry so much system, and turn round time would be so much quicker. |
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precision pumped | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
todd i run 4 mixers(cementech) and a pump .......... this will not work for the market its made for (in the uk anyway) its a great bit of kit ..............but cant see me buying one and i like toys, where do you put a 100 meters of line on it and the 500l of water needed to wash it out |
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jspumper | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
looks like a mechanics nightmare! |
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pumpjockey | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
$200,000 and it has the ability to carry what? 5 yards of material legally? and pump into wheelbarrows? I just don't see the point of putting it all into one and having limited usefulness. It's a cool engineering excersise, but beyond that, I don't know.
At least if/when the mix won't pump, the blame doesn't have very far to go. Pump, pumper, mix design, batchman, it's all there.
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toper | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
i suppossed it could carry its own slurry to prime with, and the operater would show up to the job w/system,cause i hope you dont expect the driver to run it, you know there motto" im just a driver". in all reality,great concept , bad idea, but i suppose one mans trash is anothermans treasure. |
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moneybags | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
thats dumb. lets the pumpers pump and the redimix people deliver |
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Raymond | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I'm with Seed on this one.
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pudg2 | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
neat, but I dont see any ability for it to sustain a market enough for it to actually turn a profit,the concerns for line and water is not an issue being another vehicle will be needed to carry another man you just charge for it,but a market where this setup is needed is small so it would probably not be a feasible or a neccesity, because the setup we have now is doing just fine, and me being a pump operator I have never found the mobile mixers very pump friendly, so I have to give it the thumbs down,neat but most probably not a trend setter. |
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Justapumper | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I have to agree with pudg. I have pumped the on demand stuf and while it pumps while you have the supply there, if you have to stop and wait the mix settles in the hopper and is a pain to get started again. Then there is clean up who get the water to clean up the mixer or the pump because I have found they dont carry enough for both to get cleaned right. Now the one thing I liked the mixers having was the belts. They work great for those times where getting the mixers in and, able to discharge is difficult. I had a job where to get anywhere near level the ass end had to be so high that it was the only practical solution. The job went great with no muss no fuss. |
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eugene | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
there is a couple of used cemens in the five / six yard range out there that are affordable so i asked the local supplier about them and he told me that they are short on volume as per customer requirements. there is pumi units that have not come here yet but iam sure they have a decent track record, you remember thomsens hanging off the back end of the truck. |
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Slinger | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
That would be a great set-up if you had a large enough job to justify stockpiling dry materials on site for reload. That thing is a portable batch plant with pump attached and is easily mobile. Not a good unit for small jobs but for a large job that thing could be a sweet deal. |
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pumpjockey | 03-13-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
The logistics of on-site batching with a VM are significant.
Aggregates, cement, water, admix, loader, fuel. It's just not as simple as it appears at first blush. It's doable, but it ain't cheap, by any means. Best suited for remote areas, where the cost and availability of concrete via ready-mix produces it's own difficulties. If you're a 3 hour trip for RM, what if something happens on the site, and 10 trucks are on the road to you? With an on-site VM, you're on top of it already. But that's about the only scenario where an on-site VM doing a large pour works well. |
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precision pumped | 03-14-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
pudg, its all about the quality of the kit you put in i have no problems with mine pal infact would rather use them over ready mix...................but i would say that :) |
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Weave | 03-14-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I've worked with site mixers quite a few times and they are not a real problem. A little unnerving primeing a 42m at first because they work so slow but it's doable. Last time we did it was for the Montana Transportation Dept. doing a latex overlay with 39m. |
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pudg2 | 03-16-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
not talking bad about them theyre just not pump friendly atleast the ones around here anyway, I have used them a couple of times,theyre definitely a money maker for a pump because theyre slower though, they do have a market I just dont know if the combo will fly. |