OK so I had some crane assist piers the other day...It was a 60 foot 5 inch pipe,with rubber hoses between my boom and the pipe.My question is this!!.....Do you saftey sling the rubber to the boom??,I ask because what if some thing were to happen and the crane let go?? Would you want to be tethered to a big ass pipe with no quick'ish way of letting it go? Thats a shit tone of weight,any how I ask because I dont run into this ALOT and was just wondering what Y'all thought about the subject...SO ... Too sling or not to sling!!!

Also keep in mind..The hose is never down in the hole,they add pipe to keep the rubber and clamp out of the re-bar.The pipe sections are put together with BOLT clamps,So even if they do hang they wont come open

When in doubt sling it, what will it hurt especially on ANY rubber.

WOW 50+ views from "The Pro's" and no feed back or thoughts or ideas?? But let some one post a pic of an outrigger pad that isnt squared up with the foot and you had better look out,they'll hang you 'round these parts!! Seems as though nobody want to bother posting any more unless it is to cause harm or Ill will towards some one or some "Other" company....Pathetic

Yeah thats Kinda where I am at SQUIRREL just lookin for some input,I have seen what the "safety straps" do when they have had alot of pressure/stress put on them.You can not get them to slide back open they have to be cut, And I think I would want to get Un-hooked and away as fast as I could

Like I said that 60 footer I am sure is heavy as hell

Sling it...and if you don't, I wouldn't post a picture of it--

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As far as I'm concerned the safety straps are to protect the workers underneath the 'working load' of a concrete pump. Now you add a crane into the mix, you've changed the complexion of the job. It now falls more into the realm of a crane. Just how many points of attachment for safety's sake does a crane have on it's load. T concrete boom is rated for it's 3** lb load, if the connection to the crane fails, something is coming down, regardless. I think the load is the cranes responsibility, the crane is bearing the weight if it falls the responsibility lies with the crane, not the pump. that's my take on the situation. Just another reason to have your I's dotted and T's crossed on the job ticket and have it covered and documented in the pre-job meeting. This is a very good topic for discussion. Thanks for that.

WOW It's RAY!!! hows it Ray?? Yeah I am pretty well done with posting pictures on here.

Whats up who? You boys been busy in nw ar? We have been running good hear in Memphis to 70 hour +'s weeks in past month. I would have to agree with the other on this one, sling it the ass you cover maybe your own.

WHO?? how is Bob doing? Heard anything on him?

I do sling the one piece of rubber that is hooked to the boom since its policy but I was just curious what others did,,(I have only ran into this,this once)......I guess in my head the reasons for not slinging are as many as the reasons too sling ...Make sense?? I was just thinking about stuff and I like to make threads on here that are decent to discuss instead of having all the other BS to read I have not heard anything about bob in a while other than he had another operation on his shoulder a couple weeks ago...

Just curious....instead of using a boom....is it possible to just to use a trailer pump and have the crane pick up the ground line as an alternative?...this is a great topic for discussion and isn't talked enough about i think

I like to keep some slack (curve) in the hose so I know I am not taking on any of the weight.Make sure you & the crane operator are on the same page & have good communications.Oh & I sling it every time.  

I would always strap it, if the crane fails and you catch it good for you bad for the pump,if the crane fails and you dont have it strapped and it falls and kills someone bad for crane, pump, everyone, as long as its strapped, you have done what you could do , if not they will find you partly at fault for sure. And the linepump question is a very good one we have setups as was talked about , and I do believe this is the safest way,now getting it to be used is a different story.

Yeah I keep a pretty decent amount of slack in the hose myself,Just enough tension so that it does not kink up

could the pump possibly flip over if the crane fails because of the amount of weight or bend the tip section with such a sudden change?

YUP! Sling or no sling.

depends on the safe load rating of your safety strap, 60ft of 5 line and a flex full of concrete is a little bit different to a single pipe.

SLING IT. if for some reason your boom clamp was to fail,and they do at times; i have witnessed this. your strap should keep keep the hose full of mudd from falling and possibly injuring yourself or anyone below.falling concrete would be very unforgiving,not to mention painfull. if the crain fails it's out of your control and something is coming down.just keep a clear site at all times with a clear path just in case. pump on;;;

Lives are'nt replaceable if you ask me should a crane fail and your boom catches the pipe and it causes damage to the boom i say 20+ dollars to fix the equipment is better then someone getting hurt or killed. Even if the pump was to flip im sure from the point of failure till the signs of the pump going down it should be enough time to get out of there. Thats my take on this =)

 Lighten up there Jib roller! I say sling it. You're already lashed to another piece of iron. 9 times outta 10 the pump can be set up close enough to keep the tip section (or jib in your case) vertical incase it does have to hold the load.

 Bottom line, cut & dry, plain & simple fact is... If there are workers below the pipe connected to the crane and a concrete pump they are at risk. Their safety trumps ANY concern for equipment damage EVERY day of the week!!!

 Boom sections can be replaced, Limbs and lives cannot. Sling it, Strap it, Choke it, Rope it, Whatever it takes to keep it from coming down on someone.     

TT...Negative Ghostrider! went back out there yesterday and did 3 more holes.For 2 of them I was A-framed,And one I had the 47 S T R E C H E D.......I DO/DID/WILL CONTINUE to strap my hoses,I WAS JUST WANTING TO DISCUSS SOMETHING TO DO WITH PUMPING CONCRETE INSTEAD OF ALL THE BULLSHIT PEOPLE POST ON THE SITE NOWADAYS....And this seemed like a good topics since I have never read anything on it before

Hey, Its good hearing from you who///

I once had a crane assist from a towercrane .The crane opp had same the concern about the pump. What is the crane’s gonna do when the pump tips over.

Superdoffer,PRAY O LORD HELP ME..................

 Always sling your hose. For arguements sake lets say you have a bad clamp on it or one give on the end of the boom and lets the 90 cut loose. At least the sling keeps any of it from possibly hitting anyone. I had a brand new clamp rim fracture once so, it was a good lesson early in my career.