We're from Missouri and have drove by the scale houses for over 11 years. We were always told these trucks were classified as a moving pieces of machinery. Some dot guys say we need to stop some don't have a clue. We were pulled over in the putz telebelt 105 several years ago and the dot guys just gave us the paperwork back because I think they had no idea what to do. We have no liscense or dot numbers, so what do ya do? The guys have thrown their arms in the air before at the scales but never chase us down. im sure not stopping if I don't have to either. 

Umm yes and you need dot#'s and permits 

It's the law you must stop at wt stations in all states 

I have never been through a state that did not require pumps or belts to stop , we have to run permits , and it states on these permits you are required to stop at every open scalehouse .

I am not trying to be critical but I couldn't believe this was a serious question. Call one of your competitors and get their iinfo on who they use to get permits etc. You will have to units weight certs axled out etc

i am amazed that the dot did not tell you that you had to stop.

I DONT GET IT ! WE JUST AVOID THEM ALL !THEIR IS ALWAYS A WAY AROUND THEM .  EVEN REST AREAS WHERE DOT ENFORCMENT WITH SCALES OR PUCO LIKE TO HANG OUT

Im not from the states but in ontario we dont have plates on our pumps we can run coloured fuel in them and we dont need to stop at any scales we dont really have to be governed to 105 either same for our big mobile cranes we are considered off road vehicles and we dont carry a load just our selves.

FCF, you are either a farmer or you are in NORTHERN ontario.  No where in canada on a public road is that legal.  Ive seen CVIP look at desiel.

in western canada, a commercial vehical over the GVW stated by the province/territory must report to an open scale house.  failing to stop was a $500 fine in 2002.

   Well, I'm still not stopping till I get a definite answer. we've passed them for 11 years and I guess we'll keep on sailing by. Those DOT guys need to get their crap together, one guy says yes you have to stop, then a different one will say no. we wouldn't be opposed to getting a permit but they get confused since we have no plate on the back or DOT #'s. I guess when I do get pulled over I'll see what that guy does. He'll prolly scratch his head too.  

In Ontario we are classified as road building equipment and that entitles us to run coloured fuel, also we don't have to run plates.  That being said you are required to safety your equipment and yes you have to stop at he scales especially if you have overweght permits.  If you get really technical any county, city or region you travel in you should have an overweght permit if the machine requires it.  You still have to have a CVOR and it should state Fit unplated and any imported machine you need a RIV [registered imported vehicle}  The plates and coloured fuel we have had since the erly to mid 80's at one point in the 80's you didn,t even need a class D license just air brake endorsement which is also why most of us were yes farmers because we grew up driving grain trucks around the fields.  My first truck I drove was a 63 chev that used to be a Canada Dry truck that we converted to haul grain.  Oh and by the way I was 8 yrs old. Oh the good old days.

well lucky ontario.  are axle weights more lax for "road building equipment"?

Yes and no.  Overweight permits allow us to run heavier axel loads but the cost of permits for all the different areas you run in can amount to $10,000 or more per year.  However in the spring with half load roads until the frost comes out we cannot run on those roads.  It can get to be a pain in the arse sometimes but in the long run worth it.  The break you get in fuel costs compensates for the permits.  As mentioned in the ACPA thread approximately 75% of your fuel is burned on site not on the roads.  Let me ask you this do you think its fair for pumps and mobile cranes to pay the same fuel and road taxes as trucks of the same weight that do nothing but travel on the road.  You say lucky Ontario but we had the people in the industry that fought and proved this point that the ACPA is fighting for now 30yrs ago.  Perhaps being proactive for the industry is better than reactive.  Considering at the time there was really only 2 major players they pulled together and lobbied the provincial governmnt as a united front and won.

Kootoo's to you grandad! There is a lot to be said about fellas with some real grass roots! 

It definitely helps with fuel costs thay for sure. I dont typically run the coloured fuel i havent for like 3 years the truck doesnt run as good with the coloured diesel. As per the stopping at the scales everyone i know that pumps they say they also never stop at the scales and when i have in the past they look at me like im from space then they are like go ahead and they let me leave. One officer even told me i didnt need to stop so i dunno its hard to say but they never come after me or anything which is nice

Technically you probably should stop bUT with your track record at blowing by I'd keep doing that.  1 ticket every 10 years or so is much cheaper than constantly getting held up on your way to a pour and every scale operator can come up with a different set of rules to apply to you if you  go in.  Kinda like drinking about 2 beers then heading straight to a DUI checkpoint to see if they can stick you for something.  Go around!   Well don't drink and drive but you're missing nothing by not dealing with scales.  Even in a road tractor I've only been stopped once for bypassing and they let me go..

I purchased a 32 meter Puzt out of Kentucky      and it didn't have a plate but it did have a DOT number in TN we had to buy a plate with a weight class plus our on DOT number which is free only trouble is before you get a new tag you have to go to the IRS office and get them to sign off cause we were not a Carrier of goods just extra trouble.