Feedback on grease pumps
Grease Guy 08-15-2009
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 I would like to know what your likes and dislikes about existing greasing pumps


Pump N00b 08-15-2009
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The ones we get on our Putz's, the standard Lincolns I think it is, is not the most userfriendly to use.
Atleast when you think of all the other nice stuff Putz put on there.
Would like something like a little display, even numbers would do, to programme intervals and stuff.
Oh, and a much, much, muuuuuuch bigger reservoir. :D

putzman1975 08-15-2009
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i like grease pumps but i also have grease fittings on my s tube i dont trust auto i like to do it myself every 50 yards

PourItOut 08-15-2009
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dont trust auto greasers, put Ts and grease zerks on all fitting in case auto greaser fails, good luck boys!!!!!    Pour It Out

Many 08-15-2009
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dont trust auto greasers, put Ts and grease zerks on all fitting in case auto greaser fails, good luck boys!!!!!    Pour It Out

Yessiree bob

The auto greaser is not the higher cure.How does one know it's really doing it's job?


eugene 08-15-2009
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my friend the high roller buys an battery powered grease gun over 200- bucks uses it a few times and wham its broke. not sure if he knows how to run one but i call his bobcat 337 squeeler ha ha. 

pumper chuck 08-16-2009
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vogel grease pumps are great but dont allways trust them.like anything mechanical they can still breakdown/malfunction or not put grease where needed so allways check hose's, lines for breaks ,cuts and wear.if you have grease pouring out of one section and not another you better check it out before its to late.there is three on my pump 1 for rock valve and aggitator seals 1 for turret and 1 for the boom and they work well. allmost to well but no complaints because [ grease is your friend ].

cp1 08-17-2009
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Pump NooB, on the lincolns the intervals are changed by unscrewing the plastic plug and changing the blue and red dials.  Blue is the hour interval to begin greasing, red is the amount of time to grease (blue=1 red=3 is the magic combo, it means grease every hour for fifteen minutes).  Many, the needle goes in and out on the block when it's working and if one port gets plugged, it will not continue to grease anything else, so if it's greasing something, it's greasing everything.  Bigger grease pot, and a better price is what I'd like to see.  Oh, and word to the wise, run the greaser to a power source that's hot as soon as it's in pto, not just when the pump is on.  You'll go through grease, but you'll save your auger seals.

Many 08-17-2009
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If for the sake of aurgument it plugs at say section 2-3 boom pin it will stop greasing that point.What better way to insure each point is getting it's just reward than to get up there and do something.

There's nothing fool proof that's automated,dispite public opinion.


cp1 08-17-2009
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If one grease point is plugged, the greaser will pump over the relief and make a pile under itself.  It will not skip over the plugged point (unless you're using a different style grease block maybe).  GreaseGuy, it would be cool if there were a way of knowing right away when the element breaks.  That's created a problem before.  The operator thinks that the greaser's working because it spins, but they don't notice for a week that the grease level hasn't gone down.

Many 08-17-2009
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That was my point exactly,it goes over relief.Now ask how many operators notice little things like grease levels on a daily basis.I will however continue greasing the other points once it passes the obstruction point.

So if there's a T and zerk before that point and he greases he will at least say,mmm and report it.Lets face it,were lucky enough just to get operators to show up for work on time.Not a blanket statement but we have seen them.


dlee7729 08-17-2009
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our 39x has a vogel greaser. other than a few plastic lines going bad no problems. Once a week i will hit the start button and watch the gage as it cycles threw. I also do a visual on the boom checking for cracks and dry pins if not dailey at least once a week. It is set for 15min every four hrs. When the greaser is full i am getting 200hrs before a refill. i did have to replace the pin an bushings at the 3rd and 4th section attach point because it was out of spec. just worn out but not from lack of grease.

Many 08-17-2009
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Now that's what i'm talkin 'bout,good for you,well done.

pumpjockey 08-17-2009
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Here's the Autolube System I like: http://www.cplsystems.com/

Another website: http://www.groeneveld.nl/index.php?id=1624

 


greenguy 08-17-2009
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We've got the stock lincoln grease pumps on our 4 putz's. 

The newer ones (ours are 2006 models) use a pressure transducer that's screwed into a side port on the last grease distribution block.  Once the transducer sees two grease pulses, it shuts the greaser off.  If the pulses aren't seen by the greaser after a set time, the greaser errors out and flashes an error code through the led on the rear step switch box (get the codes from the lincoln manual).  No flashing LED = everything OK.  Make sure the LED is lit solid while the greaser runs, otherwise you'll never see an error code with a burnt LED (that got me once and took agitator bushings out before we noticed).  I also get our guys to test for a blown fuse after every wash out by running a manual autolube cycle.

The older ones ran on a timer (like our 2002 Putz, or our 2005 Cifa) that shut off after a set amount of time (adjustable on the board).  They don't use the pressure transducer. 

I talked to Putz service after a couple of motor failures on the Lincolns.  We switched from an NLGI grade 2 (shell albida LCEP2) to a grade 1 and the failures stopped.  We now use Shell Alvania EP1.  Its good from -15C to +75C (5F to 170F).

Don't ever take the top off the greaser to fill with a spatula or spoon.  You will get dirt in there.  The dirt will seize a piston in the distribution block solid (about .001" clearance inside those things), and you'll be greasless until you figure it out.  Buy an air powered grease and fill it that way (a zip tie on the trigger keeps your fingers from cramping).      

My 2 cents worth. .  .


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801

 


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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If you put a prox switch attached to grease valve and it stops running an alarm will show. Ive been working with grease systems since the age of fourteen, not behind a desk but in the field. We designed this pump specifically

for the concrete market. And YES ALL GREASE SYSTEMS NEED A GREASE FITTING IN PLACE ON THE MAIN LINE

IN CASE OF A FAILURE 


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list. We also have a ultra sensor that attaches to the grease valve. If it does not count the cycles it will send alarm to grease pump.

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list. We also have a ultra sensor that attaches to the grease valve. If it does not count the cycles it will send alarm to grease pump.

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list. We also have a ultra sensor that attaches to the grease valve. If it does not count the cycles it will send alarm to grease pump.

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list. We also have a ultra sensor that attaches to the grease valve. If it does not count the cycles it will send alarm to grease pump. I was asked by Groeveld to be their Rep in Chicago. When I compared our new pump to thiers I turned them down.

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801


Grease Guy 08-18-2009
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 Check out my profile. I designed the original greasing systems for Putzmeister in racine 15 years ago. Both the Hopper and boom lube. We designed a new pump that will adapt to existing system. Stackable reservoirs you can inrease the reservoir w/ a 79.00 extention rather t5han order a 400.00 larger reservoir for Lincoln,s to much to list. We also have a ultra sensor that attaches to the grease valve. If it does not count the cycles it will send alarm to grease pump. Plus I took a trip to Germany and the are in the process of running my pump against Lincolns. Lincolns pump does not shut down at high pressure, stripping the gears

Jack rogers alocorp@comcast.net 708-969-8801