friends and business
pudg 06-09-2008
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I have a friend that I got into pumping seven years ago,since then we had become close friends our families are close,all the normals of friendship,but with working together we fished together, played ball,occasionally taking long weekends with our wives and children,yall get the point.Well last week this so called friend is on a 8 story building we just started and he is pouring core walls at 3pm as the project manager ask him to put on a 4" hose he tells him f--- no,when asked why he wouldn't,he tells the project manager,because its 4pm on a Friday and I'm tired of f------ with you,putting me in the bad position of being the op.manager,when I talked to him I was told he was not going to put a 4" hose not today,as I told him how unprofessional this was he hung up on me,then called me telling me to send someone to pick the pump up he didn't want to do this anymore,and now he has no job,now he's lost a friend also,all he had to do was finish the job and tell me his issues and everything would have been cool,but to leave the way he did showed me what kind of person and friend he really was,no class,no respect,no morals,no ethics,no nothing, just unemployed,I hope he grows up and accepts the responsibility of being an adult and not acting like a kid,it was embarrassing to have to goto the job and handle the way he had acted,but thats my job and I did it in a professional way,I finished the job and am looking forward to going on without his negativeness and childish attitude,as for him I wish his family well,but could give a shit less if I ever see or talk to him again,so I hope he reads this and idios amigos wouldn't wanna be ya!


Todd 06-09-2008
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Dear pudg

Sometimes we all do things we wish we could take back. Sometimes life gets over bearing, sometimes we dont care if we live or die, life sometimes gets the best of us and the people that we love the most we end up hurting them as well as ourselves. You know what grace is? Grace is when we deserver our consequences but instead we get help. Its more than forgiveness, its support. Maybe your friend just needs some grace. I can look back in my life and see how important grace is and how alone we can be when no grace can be found.

 


Bob 06-09-2008
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pudg

It sounds to me as if you were his friend; he was not yours. A friend would never put you in that position.

Maybe Todd would. ;~)


bisley57 06-09-2008
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      Please go on with your life,it is short.........

2IC 06-10-2008
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people do strange things, even to their friends, when things are troubling them. if his friend turns his back where does he go?  who is a real friend?


joey 06-10-2008
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I HAVE A FRIEND I GOT INTO PUMPING,

FIRST RULE OF MANAGEMENT, DONT HIRE YOUR FRIENDS OR FAMILY! This can be a hard lesson to learn and most managers learn it the hard way. Hiring a friend to work for you is the quickest way to end a friendship. I have yet to see it work out long term. Someone always ends up getting the short end of the stick in the end! However it ends, its always ugly and the damage is usually very long lived, sometimes permanent!

The initial rejection of turning a friend down for a job is much easier to deal with than the long term effects that will be caused by what is bound to happen sooner or later.

This is just my advice as a manager, some might disagree but I have dealt with the heartache many times before I learned my lesson. Hopefully I can help someone avoid the hard lesson themselves.


joey 06-10-2008
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As for the friend who quite on you, sh-t happens man. Dont let what happened ruin a friendship. I assume the guy officially quite, just leave it at that. Consider this a learning experience and move on. Talk to this friend, let him know the sh-t you had to deal with from his actions and make peace. Whatever you do, dont hire him back! Friendship is friendship and business is business, dont let the two get mixed up!

Hope it all works out.


bri 06-10-2008
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I agree with Joey. Work is work and Friendship is another baby. Make up with the friend and just put it behind you. Sounds like you guys were best friends.

dieselman 06-10-2008
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Family works out some of the times right?

 

From your loving PB manager

But you are absolutly right about friends, they'll burn you in a minute without a second thought to the damage or grief they are causing.


Russ 06-10-2008
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All good advice, but keep in mind was there something going on in your friends life that caused him to act in such a manner. Some trouble at home, death or illness of a loved one--personal problems, I agree with those that say put it behind you but try to salvage  the friendship, life is to short to let good friends fall by the waste side. Forgiveness is paramount to happiness. Share with him your anger and frustration and the ramafacations that came from his actions but move on and forgive. Probably a good idea next time to stick to that rule of don't hire friends or relatives.

 

Good luck

Russ


OE Local 3 06-11-2008
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Pudg,

How are ya? So how did things end up? did you guys Speak yet? Sorry to hear about the drama. Keep your head up!

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pudg 06-11-2008
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All is cool,I haven't talked to him and dont really need to,I'm moving on without him,and I really dont have any animosity toward him just I dont associate with people who have no integrity or morals,I'm not perfect but I have more respect for this industry,myself,and my coworkers to pull stuff like that,hope he does well in his future endeavors but with his attitude and work ethic I dont see it until he grows up.

pudg 06-11-2008
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and for the others friendship is a two way street,I wouldn't have done an enemy that,and when I got him in the industry I was operating he just tagged on my coattails wherever I went,and it is over I'm not going to fret I'm going to continue to pump concrete and manage this company,but to save a friendship that was really never there is not worth my time.If we were true friends that wouldn't have happened,so the psycho babble we can all save it,and just say he f----- you,and its over,lets not make ice cream out of s-it,it is what it is,and its over.

bisley57 06-11-2008
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 please go on with your life,it is short,but.......please don't loose your friend over something,well,trivial.It sounds as though you will miss this friend,so,you and he will be better friends after all this passes with the tide.Please don't do something that you may regret later in life.Spend some quiet time mulling this over,you will do what is right....