reggi | 07-15-2008 | comment profile send pm notify |
How are you all?? One thing I've noticed is that we have a common passion, Concrete Pumping. Im in the process of purchasing a M5816H Putz, now to get this thing registered in Melbourne, it requires to be mounted onto a Canadian 6 Axel Chassis TOR Truck. My question to you all is; How does this truck drive? running costs? reliability? etc... anyone out there that can throw me a bone it would be much appreciated. REGGI. |
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bigaboy | 07-15-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
hi ya reggi, i would look into mack's other options for 6axle and 7axle rear steer trucks. i run a 55m alliance on a 6axle mack, the ride is a bit ruf and turning radius is wide[ it take 3.5lanes to get around a downtown corner] but it has good power inter axle lock and diff lock. it willdrive through most conditions even were a mixer gets stuck[ drove through mud up to my bumper and all the tractor had to do was steer me, he had to pull everybody elsein and out,the guy doing the towing could not believe it] this unit comes in a 7axle with a rear steering axle. i believe ralfs out of seattle wa has this unit under his 63malliance. |
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bigaboy | 07-15-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
also reggi outside of service and the initial wheel alinement my truck unit see little shop time. by the way how is the employement op like down ther |
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reggi | 07-16-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Thanks for the reply bigaboy, Work down here in Melbourne is steady for now, some big job about to start, i post some pics as soon as i can |
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cavemn | 07-16-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
I was working for a company in Illinois that had a schwing 61m that was on a tor chassis. It spent more time in shops trying to fix air problems, steering problems. They finally got rid of the piece of junk and got 2 more 61m on mack chassis with the rear axle steer and away went all their problems. And these macks are in and out of downtown chicago traffic no problems. |
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SoCal 153 | 07-16-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
The Tor is definently a nice truck I drive a 2008 Schwing 61 mounted on a Tor. When I first got the pump it didn't drive that well going down the road because at Tor they allign the steering but when it goes to the concrete pump manufacture it get's out of line when they put all the weight of the unit on top of the truck I don't know about Putz but Schwing the 58's and 61's are 6 axel trucks with the front three steer and the rear axel is also a steer this is vary critical to get alligned because when we first got our 61's and 58 they were all over the road and didn't drive straight. We have this company that comes in and re-alligns the pumps at our yards and they do an excellent job at alligning them to where you can't even tell the rear axel is a steer and drives straight down the road with no sway at all and it's nice having that rear steer on the pump because you wouldn't believe the turns that it makes. Our L.A. yard has there 61 mounted on a mack and it has the rear axel as a tag axel and they wish they never got the Mack truck on the pump just because it's hard to turn corners and the clutch fan stays on almost all day the only real advantage to the mack is with that rear tag axel they can get the hopper lower to the ground. I don't know about Putz though and how low there hoppers are or if it would make a difference between the rear steer or tag axel. Usually on the Tor trucks they come with a Detroit 450 h.p engine and an automatic transmission there nice if you don't have that well of an expirenced driver, they get the job done. Like I've put in other posts with mine we modified the Tor design and put a Detroit 515 h.p. engine and an 18 speed eaton-fuller transmission in it and with the bigger motor the truck doesn't bog down every time it strokes as the 450 motor does, it stays running at the same R.P.M's and with the 18 speed tranny it pulls hills a lot better then the automatic's do. pulling a hill with my 18 speed next to the other 61 with the automatic I usually pull hills 10 to 15 miles per hour faster than him so it definently has it's advantages. The other nice thing is if you get an 09 the truck is a Mack cab but has the Tor frame the and it has a flat dog house similar to the condor with cup holders and a place for your map books with a safety strap to go over them also all the A/C controlls are right their by all your gauges, also a C.D player and it's designed similar to a Condor, a much better design then the previous Macks. The most expensive thing though is the tires but as long as the truck is alligned right you should have no problems. So Cal |
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pudg | 07-17-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
I ran a 04 58m schwing on a Tor the only problems we had was constantly breaking ball joints on the steering linkage they may have remedied this by now but if one balljoint broke you talk about have a time backing out of job,we also had problems with the airbags on the suspension deflating when they weren't supposed to, I believe I'd look at a another type truck before jumping into that Tor,no problems with the Detroit or Allison tranny,that combo was bad to the bone in the mud I could take that 58m where our smaller trucks wouldnt go but I think that combo on another truck would've been just as good maybe better |