bigboom | 07-14-2007 | comment profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
how many of you guys run by dot hours? here they think that as long that my truck can run so can i. |
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James | 07-14-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
Take the money and run. Things may not be so good in the future. You never know. Sleep when you can etc. sometimes 15 minutes here and there can mean all the difference in how you feel and your alertness. |
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Mudslinger | 07-15-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
James: Dude what the hell are you thinking??Not only is your well being at issue here,but the safety of those around you also! Why do you think DOT has these rules? To take money from your pocket? GET REAL!! If you've pulled an 16 hour shift and hurt someone on the drive home,tell them about the money! Everyone here knows your company is going to distance themselves from you(I don't care who they are,it's a matter of survival) and hang you to dry.It's not all about you! The lives of others are at stake here! As I've said here before "If you are not part of the solution,you're part of the problem" ! You've just shown what you're made of! |
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littlepumper | 07-15-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
we've all done it i'm sure. The dispatchers push us, and if we refuse to take another job after already putting in 10 hrs. then they act as though we don't want to work and start working other people before you. Or sometimes another pump breaks down and you're covering for both pumps, it happens. The bills have to get paid. I put in 63 hrs. overtime in one week, It was work, eat, sleep that's it. Shop politics! |
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38zman | 07-16-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
Hey just do what makes you safe dont let anyone push you and push now on the other hand if you were where I live in Ontario you cant seem to get enough hours here way to many pump companies popping up. |
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Doug | 07-16-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
Dot driver hours rules are law not suggestions. |
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ROOK | 07-17-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
brings up a good question, Whats the most hours someone has put in in one shift without sleep. i can remember the days when monday was the only day i was on regular time and the rest of the week was double time because i lived out of my cab. James i am with you take the money and run sleep when you can and then enjoy the times that it is slow...Any minute i am sure bob will take time out of his busy day and put his two cents in on this |
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Seed | 07-18-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
I say take the money and run also without putting anyone, thing or yourself in danger. Sleep in the cab when you can. The only true reward in this industry is" THE MONEY." The pump operator that brings home a grand a week is the " HAPPY PUMPER " |
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bigboom | 07-19-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
i have put 40 hours in on one shift. one job to the next. as long as i can keep moving im good, but as soon as there is a break in mud power nap time |
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James | 07-20-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
I agree with you and please do not misconstrue what I meant by what I said. That is the reason I said 15 minutes here and there can help alot. If an operator has been pushed past his limit then they need to speak up and say enough. If an operator is being pushed too hard then they need to take the time when they can to rest. Winston Churchill, during WW2, worked and average of 18 hours a day for years. He was able to do this by taking naps here and there. He was able to stay sharp. |
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Slavedattler | 07-21-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
Well the old days cough I worked 74 hours with 15min naps. I can say, there are pink elephants and dorthy was real cute.Luckly the log books were new in Washington state and the scale gaurd had been there done that and made me sleep 12hrs but not before turning up the heat in the chicken coup and went through the whole rule book in 1hrs 10 min. I was ready to hang myself, never did I do that again hehe.No fine but then that was a while ago.
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Bob | 07-21-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
I wanted to let this topic play out for a while before listing the rules/LAW. Many companies fall under the 'Short Haul' regs.
Simply stated the new rule means: · Drivers may drive up to 11 hours in the 14-hour on-duty window after they come on duty following 10 or more consecutive hours off duty. · The 14-hour on-duty window may not be extended with off-duty time for meal and fuel stops, etc. · The prohibition on driving after being on duty 60 hours in 7 consecutive days, or 70 hours in 8 consecutive days, remains the same, but drivers can "restart" the 7/8 day period anytime a driver has 34 consecutive hours off duty. · CMV drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.
In developing these hours-of-service regulations, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) systematically and extensively researched both FMCSA will continue working with its partners and stakeholders to assure a smooth transition to the new regulations. Please join us in working together to implement these new regulations for the continuing improvement of motor carrier safety. For more information or additional outreach materials, visit the FMCSA's Web site at www.fmcsa.dot.gov.
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peter pumper | 07-22-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
What if I am just drive my Pickup to the job sight and just running the pump no driving the pump how many hours can I pump? |
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Bob | 07-22-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
Pete, It is determined by "work hours". Your clock starts when you begin to get paid. |
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peter pumper | 07-22-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
They are currently working crews out here 6 10s and some are working 7 12s including operators and cranes. All of the truck drivers at the copper mine are working 12s and they drive 340 ton trucks. |
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Bob | 07-22-2007 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
The thing about compliance is.... Personal Responsibility! You are responsible for you, and everyone that is affected by your actions, legal and illegal. ;~) |
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Mudwrestler | 09-01-2008 | reply profile send pm notify | |||||||||||||||||
I've seen those hospital TV shows and the doctors seem to work a lot longer hours than us pump operators and there jobs seem just a little more tecnical than ours.But thats just my opinion |