I FEEL YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW
boompumper 08-23-2008
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Please todd let this one stay up.  Do you feel you should know when a employer is doing something {shaky} how about if ther actions caused a operator to lose just about everything he had {only that they cant take his pride}. or if they dont pay? if they opperate with no permits or lisences. wouldnt you all like to protect anyone else from having to go through the same thing?


Todd 08-23-2008
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I understand how you feel but i cant have you or any one pointing out the flaws of the company they work for. This is not the place for it. You know how many people would just post crap because they dont feel like they are being treated right? Than people would just try to hurt their competitors by posting crap acting like an employee of that company. I dont know what is real or what is not real and its not my job to find out. We just cant post that type of stuff. I am sorry things are all messed up for you but you cant post your side of the story on this message board.

I hope you understand the big picture as it pertains to this web site.

 


Bob 08-23-2008
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But what have you really told us?

There are less than honorable people operating pumping companies. Some employers are worse/or better than others.

Every industry is like that.

I FEEL YOU ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW

We knew.


phoenix 08-23-2008
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I believe that 99% of all people that purchase concrete pumps have the intention to go about the business in the correct manner.  I also believe that operators are some of the hardest working individuals in the construction field today. So what happens?  Enter a third variable that needs to be considered.  The contractor.  Is your boss being paid, has he had to lower his costs to compete, has he had dishonest employees steal from him, directly or indirectly, accidents, boom parties,  and the list goes on and on. Your employer might be doing the best he can. I am not condoning unethical behavior, just find out the facts from the man in person. The economy is in a wipeout mode; refer to this post in 12 months.

The stock market will take a hit for 1 Trillion, the real estate market for 1 trillion…there are projected 110 more banks in the next 12 months that will fail for a total of 850 billion, (thats all most a trillion) which is  10X’s more than the FDIC has….for a perspective on million, billion and trillion….1 million seconds ago was 12 days….1 billion seconds was 32 years or actually 1976, and a trillion was 32,876 years ago or  30,868 BC.   The numbers are becoming incomprehensible.

Talk to your employer in private and express your concerns, if the issue is not corrected, take along another individual and express them again, if you are still unsatisfied, give notice and move on, I urge you to take the high road.


Raymond 08-23-2008
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Good advise Phoenix-  take the high road...

cooler heads always prevail.

 


boompumper 08-24-2008
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you are all so rite. the high road is the best wy to go. and hear is wari i have to tred lightly we all know there are some real winners out there. however 15 years ago this was a verry comin thing to happen, but here in the now well its called being a premadona. im not here to point fingers or name names not the place to do that just ratling the cage a little to get some ones attion. that as a hole we in our industry should not except this kind of behavior. those of you here that know me know i may and am probably fighting a loosing battle but its one i will fight. 

bri 08-24-2008
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dont write anything bad about the co. you work for. I can be used as slander which is punishable in the court of law.

Bob 08-24-2008
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SLANDER

A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media -- for example, over the radio or on TV -- it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.

boompumper 08-24-2008
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Bob you are 100% correct. If i did not have all the documintation to back what i have said then id be nervis, however i do and so do all the state fedral and locial agencies that deal with the problem at hand.dont get me wrong its not a bad compamy and i will never say it is but i will say there is some seriously bad methods going on.   

Bob 08-24-2008
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No one can hold the truth against you... except for the fact that in America, anyone can sue anyone else for anything.

CYA & be careful.


Leroy 08-24-2008
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Before running any pump, add this to your pre-trip insp... registration,proof of ins. proper permits, current tabs, veh. insp. report etc. If they lack the above their probably pretty "shakey". Explain to the owner that running a pump in this manner could damage your reputation as an operator.

Bob 08-24-2008
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Those items are part of the federally mandated DOT pre trip document check. If you drive a commercial vehicle without those items the ticket will have your name on it.

It is the law.


boompumper 08-24-2008
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if any one should know the penltys its you bob. and yes the ticket dose go the driver. its up to the owner and the courts discresion to change it into the companys name {yes i took the big one fore the team! and yes its still in my name!!!}

Bob 08-24-2008
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It is a deicate issue. This is the sort of thing that you need to deal with when you get back FROM the pour. It isn't the customers fault, so you better be there for him. I am sure that everyone fills out their srivers hours of service log every day... right? At least the documenting that you did the pre-trip and the maint' items that you want fixed before the rig goes back on the road. On the comments line you should list the documents that you are missing. You should do this EVERY DAY until they are provided for you. You are required to let your company know that they are not in the truck. They are required to get them to you.

You can't be confrontational about this with your company. But at the same time you need to EVERY DAY list what is not there as well as what is wrong with your unit. Even if you operate under the 100 air mile radius exemption you still need to fill out the inspection part of the log.

There are lots of reasons why you should do this. None of those reasons are bad for an operator.

B T W the log book you work with is for the driver, not the truck. Keep the same log book with you every day. Use it until it is complete, and keep it in your truck for seven (7) days after it is full while you are working on your new book. After the (7) days, turn it in to the company.

And HEY... lets be careful out there ;~)


boompumper 08-24-2008
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ok you are rite once agin. but those customers are number one i treat them all as if they were the only one. a happy customer is a repeet one! besides my ol man told me manny moons ago the customer dosent need to know personal problems your having with your company. and yes in a perfict little text book world when you ask for something you need weather dot required or not you would get it. but hey this is not such a wourld is it!  you are all rite 98% of the pumping companies do the right things. and no the grass isnt always greener on the outher side of the fence. im sorry to say that brand x is in that 2%range and takes up most of it. bob we could go round and round about what the book says. we all know what it says and what is ment, thats not always whats dont. we could resite  FMC reg. back and forth till we are blue in the face. dosent change the fact of someone willingly and knowingly violating the law. how would you feel if one of your kids called you and sad hey dad i just got a 8,000 dollar ticket becouse the truck wsnt legal. youd be perty upset and whant every one to know.

Bob 08-24-2008
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I well know that we do not live in a perfect world.

Just do like we all do... our best. ;~)


TooTall 08-24-2008
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Boompumper,  Bob said it, all we can do as operators is our best. The best an employee can do (aside from providing them himself)  is notify the employer & Document it (log book). By refusing to work until the bitch list is fixed you jepardize your job and reputation. Nobodys gonna hire a guy whose refused to pump over paperwork. In the future a tell-tale sign of an outfits "shakeyness" . Do they drug screen new hires & is there a regular drugscreen policy? If not most likley they dont have adiquate insur. and they usualy wont waste the $ on drug test's. A short while ago I helped a guy out w/a new pump he needed some help with. By dropp'n 20$ on a "trip permit" at the local truck stop I saved the fella a fare amount of greif when I got the green light at the first port-of-entry(scale-house) I encountered. I was re-embersed that nite $ did wonders for the rep. The best we can do out here is " C.Y.A." (cover your a$$). Keep a log, write stuff down. it shows you're a professional, and stands up in a court of law!   pump-on        

Wolfman 08-27-2008
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First things first,I apologize Todd for naming names but what was done put me and my family home-less for some time and i kept all my job tickets for proof,but low and behold i"ve been in court for 2yrs now,big company wins and little guy suffers.Mind u i"m not suing for money,I want an apology in the ACPA magazine,let them tell on them selves.

Wolfman 08-27-2008
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I understand Todd's point,he can"t investagate every accusation and in order to run a good site it must be checked out,no body wants to put him and this site in jepordy.I myself would like to know if a company is good or bad but who do I/U believe.The guy thats mad because he didn't get to move up in pump sizes or the guy who got fired because the mechanic left the bolts on the driveshaft loose,you just never know.I just ckeck a company by the amount of work and who it's with before i fill out an application,remember (You can show me better than telling me).