mudcup | 09-24-2010 | comment profile send pm notify |
Haven't put anything up in a while, here's a little something. |
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mudcup | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
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pumpjockey | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Nice pics. Mixer drivers love it when you have the truck parked in a little drop-off, so the hopper is nice and low. The mud runs so easily down the steeper chute then. Don't you just hate having to get into the cab after lifting the front end so high? |
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Telealbelt | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Step Ladder |
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Seed | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Nice truck and work! Is that a 32 or 36? |
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Many | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Somewhere in bbcp's Denver office there was a pic of a 52m jacked so high the operator (Vince) could almost walk under it.That young man knew how to jack a pump. |
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mudcup | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Thanks I try to keep it clean its a 1995 32M R&F truck is a 2002 |
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Matthew | 09-24-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Nice to seeya back mudcup. Glad to seeya out pumping again. seem to remember something about your company being bought out by one that didn't run pumps, but could be wrong. Anyway, nice to seeya back. Good pics as always. Have fun and pump on brother. |
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boony | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
don't know about other makes but schwing pump manuels say you shuold only jack front up until you see the weight just coming of the tyres the front tyres should never leave the ground.i wonder if that dynamic pump had its front wheels of the ground?not dising anyone here just seems to be a done thing but is it the correct way? |
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Vasa | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
If you stand on a flat surface , only lift the pumpfront enough to unload the spring but if you must lift it so you are within the 3 degree angle to have the pump in level lift it up . No problem on Putz or Schwing built on Volvo or Scania chassi . |
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mudcup | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yes the only reason I jacked it up that high is because I was on a downward slope and working down the slope with the boom it had to be done to get within 3 deg I would have thrown off my counter balance the pump is very sturdy when it's jacked up like that but I only do it when I have to. Thanks MATT I've been out pumping just no time to take pics |
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mudcup | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I forgot to mention that yes my company is being bought by a company who doesn't pump but myself,other operator and the pumps are moving to the construction side of our company. |
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baddogpumping | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
When I was in the pacific northwest years back that was the normal. We used to always keep extra dunnage on the trucks. I had one job in portland,or that took over 45 min just to level the truck. I stand 6' and was able to stand under my bumper and it still did not touch my head. It sure did make getting the batteries off the charger a bitch. |
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Matthew | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I run a schwing 32xl, very similiar to mudcups. I live and work on san juan island, lots of water front jobs. I have my front tires of the ground in order to get inside my 3 degrees quite often. She's as sturdy with them off the ground as with on. Never had a problem. |
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Matthew | 09-25-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
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Christie | 09-27-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
I don't want to post the picture,but if you're in the mood to criticize go to www.wuisbrothers.com then go to equipment gallery and scroll down to the second last picture. Check out the 42m jacked up in the bush! (notice the right front outrigger) |
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pumpjockey | 09-27-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
WOW, Christie, that on is incredibly NOT GOOD!! And they appear to be boomed past the good left front and starting into the danger zone. Not to mention 2 hunks of steel on the tip hose. I would nominate this for bad set-up of the decade if only there were a high-voltage line running overhead as well!!@ |
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Christie | 09-27-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Thanks, I thought that would spark some interest!!!!! |
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pumpjockey | 09-27-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
You know, it looks as if that left front outrigger isn't even swung fully forward, nor is the left rear fully swung to the back. Exactly what's going on over on the right side is difficult to tell, but I'd be willing to bet that it is 'ALL JACKED UP' too. |
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pumpjockey | 09-27-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Ahhh hell, I'll post the picture: |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Huh?? Where is that right front outrigger actualy? Looks like they just lifted it to let past the guy with the BBQ. They put it down again soon. I would not swing that boom 1 inch more towards the front. |
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chongliyan | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
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pumpjockey | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Where's your rear outri.........just messin' with ya!! Your setup looks fine. Concrete roof I take it? They didn't bring you there for the slab on grade only, did they? |
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Many | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
thought I saw it in the grill sitting there,grin |
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Christie | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
The front right outrigger is down, you can see it between the front axles. It was fully extended as was the rear. That was the setup to prime, the actual pour,(cottage foundation) was pretty much over the front left outrigger. I took 2 and a 1/2 hours to get to that job and I wasn't about to tell the guy it couldn't be done. Cutting down trees was not an option. |
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pumpjockey | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
This was you? Previous employer? What was stopping you from coming further forward, just swing the front outriggers and put the rears into travel again while you positioned, then open the rears again. Leave the off-side retracted, but swung. Extend the working side for sure. The boom musta been wild on that one. I hope it was years ago, before things smartened up about steel attachments on the tip. Those old style Schwing outriggers are a pain. |
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pumpjockey | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
In some situations, a small boom is the one to have, even if it entails a couple moves to get the job done. |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yes I see the outrigger between the front axels. But eighter that's the rear outrigger or it is the front but standing about 45 degrees backwards. that is so risky with these kind of pumps. I had one like this my self and seen it start tipping once. I just mannaged to swing back. They tip much earlyer than you would think. But the jacking up is cool. No problem for as far as I can see :-) |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
There is always space :-) |
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Christie | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
It's a fairly recent picture,and I still work there,I'm off right now with a couple of broken bones from a motorcycle accident. Believe me this was the only possible setup,(you'd have to have been there.) It was the only half assed level spot on the road. You can't see it but if I pulled ahead anymore, the rear tires would be into a bunch of sharp rock, the pile of 30ft trees on the right would then prevent right outriggers from swinging out,not to mention it became quite steep. As it was, it took almost two hours to get the pump out and on to what barely resembled a road. I've been doing this a long, long time and this setup is nothing compared to some of the places we end up in? Mostly because we do a fair amount of cottage work up north! |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugZzWTZTTu4 I don't think this guy was a new beginner. At least... If I owned the biggest pump in the world i would put my most experianced operator on it. See the left front turned backwards. It starts tipping almost straight after he passes the right front rigger. But I wasn't trying to put you down. I like the way you handled this one and nice you just get the job done. I hate operators that just say no to everything that is a bit difficult. I was just wondering if you realized how close this was from tipping over. |
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pumpjockey | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Dipstick: Regarding the Youtube you linked, that isn't a 70 meter, it's a 52, but the dynamics would be the same. If there was a pile of trees that if moved would provide a safer, more stable setup, then they should have been moved. They'd be moved at some point in the future anyways. That's too much risk for the money, not that any amount of money is worth risking life and limb over. I commend you for your innovation, but scold you for your foolishness. The consequences were entirely yours. I would not have done it, knowing what I know. But everybody have their own level of invincibility, mine isn't there. I still think it is a prime example of a bad set-up. But that's my opinion, and you know what is said about opinions. Glad you're willing to play along. Stay safe and please keep the rubber side down! |
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Dipstick | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yes. Now i see to. Its not a 70m. I always asumed since it was a trailer that it was the 70. But what the hell kind of brand and type is this than?? Never seen a 52m like that. About the set up.. I think I would never had done this one eighter. It is actualy quite extreem. But its to difficult to see axactly how it stands to give a good judgement. Although....... I would realy think they just lifted that right front to let something pass. I don't get this one... Fotoshopping??? |
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pumpjockey | 09-28-2010 | reply profile send pm notify |
It's a 52M Putz, they also had a 46M trailer boom too. If you look at the very beginning of the viseo, there is a cabover backing out of sight, it is delivering a site office trailer, presumably to the project across the street from the pour site. Looks like the operator was directed to, or just decided to put the prime-out in a different place and forgot he wasn't rigged properly anymore. Second chances aren't easy to come by. |