mud snake 20'
sdpumper 07-23-2009
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we have used our mud snake  20' hose for a couple of jobs on 20tall walls with rebar only 5 " apart works great using a 36 m putz . the hose stays flat until mud hits it and slows it down we put the hose down the form 15' and then pull back up move and then back down the general contractor thinks it is great

Secret Squirrell 07-23-2009
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nice to hear someone using it for what its intended for.

rick5z 07-24-2009
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my boss bought one, a 25 footer last week im gonna get to try it out next week we've only got a couple of piers left on this job.


ShortStik 07-24-2009
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rick5z, you lucky pumper.  something about bridge work, always want to have the pump nice and shinny.  its crazy that something that thin has better working range/mfg min burst then a flex-bond.  let us know how it works for ya.

ShortStik 07-24-2009
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the 25' that is

Secret Squirrell 07-24-2009
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Don't let it kink and for GOD sakes don't let the concrete get to the end i.e. keep it above the mud. You will see how to do walls column's etc. and just add one more tool to your box of ways to sell a job. we are using a 40'er on a job now and the contractor loves it and it helped us secure the job.

ShortStik 07-24-2009
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SS

40' thats a long hose.  i can see why the contractor loves it.  gotta be smooth as glass swinging that thing around.  should be manditory to have an air cuff when using anything that long.  funny though, more cost to a pump outfit that they can not charge for, but work is work right now.


FunnyBoom 07-24-2009
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I am currently trying to talk my company into buying various lengths of these hoses and if they do I think I will be putting them through the ultimate test. 12" walls with double mats 23' tall. 24" walls double mats of number 11's, wish i could get some pictures of them, in some areas its hard to get a high cycle vibrator down them, I will definitely keep you all posted.

Many 07-25-2009
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Nice to get some non biased information on this.I mean it sounds like a neat little tool to keep on a pump.I used to hate the way those 20'-30' pipes used to tear up the cabs.

One question. If using on multiple colums does one grease the clamp so it would spin? Like the way we did pipes


ShortStik 07-25-2009
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that dosnt seen like a bad idea Many.  could help the hose from kinking.

for yous guy the a snake, how does the out side take rubbing against rebar with tie wire when full and pumping?  do you keep pumping when lifting up in tight walls?,  bridge columns and piles always seem to have a hole in the top with the ends of rebar pointed to the middle.


Justapumper 07-25-2009
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What I would like to know is how much mud will go through one before it needs replacement? In the ads I never see that listed. THere is a burst pressure and, so on but, nothing on how long it theorectical life span is.

Many 07-25-2009
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Remember these are more special application items.Lets say for example you carry one and no wall pipe.You don't bang the cab,have to carry that dreaded pipe and looks easy to use.

If used the way it was discribed to me it should last a very long time.I would like to hear some feedback after used on ICF forms.I know the original pic reflected using on a slab,don't think it was the intended pourpose.Keep watching for feedback or contact them for added info.


yard whore 07-25-2009
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We use them on ICF wall all the time they work great contractors LOVE them! But I still like using a 5"-3" reduceing hose.

Justapumper 07-26-2009
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Umm! I understad these are for special applications but, the question still stands as to what the actual wear rate is. It heavily figures in to the cost ratio per, replacement. All Im asking for is the wear rate. We have made our own but, if there is one that wears much better then it would be a plus.

Secret Squirrell 07-26-2009
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My Co. has been using this since the beginning but I believe its still too early to give you a definitive answer yet on wear. Note this is not intended to be used daily and a replace your typical hose but to offer a tool that you can go to in unique applications. Who ever wants to know the burst pressure defer to the mud snake pic in the bar to the right. If I or any one else wears one out I am sure it wont take long for it to reach this site Ha Ha. Note this was originally designed to transfer fluids from ship to ship at sea and is "kevlar" lined so the way i see it if they can use it for that I am confident with the tested psi it should be pretty strong. Ill report if i find either positive or negatively as i see it in the future.