Tiago40m | 06-11-2008 | comment profile send pm notify |
Here are some pics of i job i just started and its going up 7 stories. all done with the 40 meter...
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Raymond | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Great perspective...you got all the angles. We gotta come up with some sort of caption for what the big guy on the phone is saying... |
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Big Tobacco | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
"Yeah, dis is Sal... howsabout youse guys sending me an da boys da usual, oh yeah, hold da anchovies..." At this time I would like to state that I was not, and do not plan on being in Brooklyn during the construction of this project...LOL!!! Big T |
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Bob | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
452 square inches of pad and about 40,000 pounds of load on that outrigger. Pounds per square inch are about eighty eight (88# psi)... on a city sidewalk. And when it ends up in that hole everyone will say, "A Concord pump collapsed in Brooklyn." |
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Concord-USA | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Great job site picts. Keep them coming. |
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Bob | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
What is the down force on a 40 meter outrigger? |
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OE Local 3 | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Tiago40m , Thanks for sharing your nice photo shots, looking great ! Curious, am I blind or is there No safety sling or cable from your reducer to your tip hose ? keep the pics. coming & be safe out there. Ray & T ,........You guys gave me a good laugh! Rary Frunny ,ha-ha, rary frunny....ha-ha ( lol ) 3 |
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Bob | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Your Schwing comparison is interesting, but not relevant to a concord. A 32m putz has 38,000# on the front outriggers. That is why I asked the mfg what the real number is. As to how much load is on each outrigger, or how much load could be on each outrigger... I am not an engineer; I just follow the manufactures rules. Safer that way, for everyone. |
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Bob | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
the pad looks awflly round to me' |
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Bob | 06-11-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
load looks like it is over this outrigger |
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Bob | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
There are more pictures being posted now than in years past. No one ever got “beat-up†doing it right. One of the greatest things about this site is the dedication to safety. It is full time/all the time. There will have been “Nuff-said†when everyone is Doing it right, and not till then.
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Todd | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
All posted Pictures on the message are open for discussion. If you post your pictures on the message board people are going to talk about it. If there are safety issues they will come up and should. |
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The Cat | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
BOB..i'm glad you said you aren't a engineer because after talking to putz reguarding the pads on my 63 they are good on firm level compact'd ground by themself...so reguarding calling me a unsafe opperator thank's your wrong.. you dont know any of the new machine spec's yet you knock opperator's with out finding out....and speedy you are right about guy's posting picture's then getting beat up over it... |
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The Cat | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
i think the guy on the phone is one of bob's spy's....he's on the phone telling bob that he's set up without enough dunnage under his feet...hahaha |
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pudg | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Bob it must not be your day,everybody give Bob a break he's just looking out for ya,and just because the manufacturer says it, it doesn't always means its true,and the post that said Bob said you was an unsafe operator,thats not what he said,he said one of your acts that day wasn't the safest practice,and if your gonna post pictures with unsafe acts or not what some of us would call not the safest way,prepare to be criticized,I saw a 52m set up on dirt with no dunnage at all on a 24" pad and made a comment,and the operator got mad it may have been my buddy OE3,we just call'm how we see'm dont be mad chances are yall will look at some of our pictures and point out something we're not doing the safest way possible,thats what makes this site a great tool in the pumping industry,we're all here to help each other my concrete pumping brothers |
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Bob | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
I asked an engineer, a Putz engineer about our discussion. His answer was to ask me If I knew the answer to this question. What is the largest putz that can be set-up on dirt with Just the factory pads? I made my guess, which was close But wrong. The pump that was my guess was too large. I figure that this man knows what he is talking about. The reason that I told you that I am not an engineer is Because I am not an engineer. Oh yea……… I almost forgot. My guess was a 36 meter. If there is any doubt in anyone's mind about my answer, please call your mfg's engineering department and/or check the ACPA soil loading specs in your safety manual or the ACPA literature.
Just about good enough is not good enough.
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cretordog | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Being the new kid on the block, i'd like to say, that the pump in question is a good 20 feet from the hole, and that the outriggers are set on a concrete side walk, which is alot stronger than soil. the only thing I would worry about is cracking the side walk. He does need a boom hose strap, but the rest looks good. But I only been doing this for 15 years, accident free. |
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Tiago40m | 06-12-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
guys i care alot about safety 1st that side walk is 10" high! NExt time i'lltake a picture so you guys can see what i am talking about.... 2sc look really close at this picture that i zoom in. i know there should be another one from reducer to hose, but there wasnt. now it will allways be there. |
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pudg | 06-13-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Brooklyn as in pretty big city under ground utilities water,gas ,electrical,sewer,anything with water or sewer running through it is gonna leak eventually creating voids,a sidewalk is my last choice for dunnage,concrete,asphalt, dirt,you never know whats under atleast dirt you can see signs of weakness with concrete you never know until its too late.Sounds like you didn't have any problems so you survived to fight another day.Good luck and thats a nice pump you have there,we're not perfect just some of us see things and question them,keep on pumpin |