We have this one city that we do work in quite alot that passed a new ordinance that no outriggers of any kind shall be placed on the street asphalt. I was set up the other day on a residental wall pour with my load bearing out riggers in the dirt and non load bearing in the street. The inspector showed up and refused to pass the wall until I move my outriggers out of the street. So I had to fold up and move completly out of the street. No this is fine but some of these holes that these builders dig there is absolutly no way to do them unless you are setting in the street, either too steep or too much dirt in front. They used to allow our telebelt to put old tires under his pads but they stopped that which you know there is no way a telebelt can setup without having at least 1 in the street. So for a temporary fix we will not show up on the job untill after the inspector has left. But I'm sure this is only temporary. I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem and what they did about it.

Get the environmentalists involved.  In the rainy seasons, driving off the paved road and into the dirt will get mud in the streets - causing the storm water to be contaminated and killing fish. 

Environmentalists CAN be your friend if you approach it correctly.

The only problem I have ever had with sitting in the street is that they would not want me to spray the back of the pump with oil. Other than that, they want a 52M on a 28 M house slab, I block the whole street.

believe it or not no one has ever said anything about spraying the hopper down. I think they have their priorities wrong.

hase sombody ever thoutht of spraying the hopper the day before.  

i spray mine down before i leave the yard in the morning.

 Raymond,you are kidding about the mud on the streets,I hope.........

Hey, Bisley-

Have you ever been to Portland, Oregon? 

All the storm drains in the streets drain right into the rivers.  All of our rivers have fish in them, specifically of environmentalists concerns: Salmon.

If there is no erosion control inspection signed off(silt fences, booms around the drains...etc) the county/city inspectors won't even look at the foundation.

It sounds crazy, but in the rainy season it can actually help pumpers out...you can't back a redi-mix truck off the street without getting mud everywhere...so there is more need for our services.

Many of the various municipalities around Hotlanta are serious about the mud on the streets. Larger jobs are likely to have a tire cleaning spot right before you drive off the site.

My thread was hijacked!!!! this is not about mud on the streets. Geez !!!!!!

leaving the street and going offroad isn't too far off of what your topic started out as.  If you read the posts you can kinda follow what's going on...at least the thread hasn't turned into a war over whether or not water washing is better than sucking a sponge...

mrmike36z

It is exactly what you were talking about.

No outriggers on the street is the creation of the same azzhole that screamed at Bri for fixing a problem. (he should have been part of the solution and not part of the problem)

No mud on the street has a point, as all know when a big pile of it turns loose from your duals to crash into the car in back of you.

No outriggers on the street is some state employee looking to justify his worthless job.

Prize winner of "dumbass rule of 2008"

(so far) ;~)

If the builder dont have space for the outriggers , it is his problem !

Take a trailer pump and hoses or conect the system of the outlet of your pump....he usually find a place with space for the outriggers !

I have had some instances where I ran into the same problem but my solution was.....welll read and you will see.

I was on a wall pour the very last of a new subdivsion. I am set up on the street blocking the the road and all of sudden I have city inspector telling me to move my pump and I said ok where he said into the dirt....ok I said who is going to pay for the pump when it goes over....no answer... Ok I said I will move the pump and set it up off the road in the deep mud but I need you to do something for me go tell the mayor that you need 6 cheques payable for 2 million each to the wall guys spouses and one for 600k for the cost of the pump. He looks at me and said you are joking....no joking here because this pump will go over and possibly kill all 6 of them and the 12 million will just be the start so I give you the choice do you want me to move....... Now this is where it becomes somewhat funny he gets in his truck comes back with 2 cops and another inspector they talk to me I give the same answers to them they all leave the latest inspector returns and said I am sorry for my colleages bad choice in judgement and he sat and watched me do the wall and even helped me to do the clean up....

 Can a pump actually block a street possibly preventing emergency services from passing?

put trench plates down in the street now the out riggers are on steel not on asphault.

Alot of this goes back to the contractors who are our customers. they know what we need on site to do the job. they book us and expect us to set up somewhere they know we cant. what they have is the faith that we can "make it happen" or " i know you can figure it out." (in the 30 minutes we need to set up before mud arrives). sure, its a compliment to our knowledge, experience and professionalism but this part of our job could be avoided. The hard part is "educating" our customers without chewing their arse. somedays I bring donoughts to the job to say thanks for your business and some days I want to choke the same crew till thier eyes pop out!

I have learned from doing things the wrong way. I know now how to be an excellent pump operator by having screwed things up so much in my past.  Right from personal experience I can tell you at least two ways to NOT do anything. Being a good safety man is much the same. A good safety man will never yell at or belittle a man doing his job. It tends to unhinge people and create even bigger problems. At the same time he cannot allow anyone to thwart ‘the program’. He has a tight line to walk; as do all professional people on a job.

Safety guys, even ½ way good ones can be your best ally. When you know that you are going to do something not quite right; go to him first and ask for some help. Those folks can usually motivate someone to make your job easier and safer better than you as an outside contractor can hope to do.

If pump operators were bull fighters 80% of them would charge the bull.

BTW

There is no charge for this bull ;~)

I have received a citation(ticket) in baton rouge for having my outriggers in the street, it was in a subdivision,poncho the motorcycle cop warns me to put a flagman so I did when I was picking my outriggers up he returned and the flagman you know it had walked off he waited while I washed out and wrote me a ticket for illegal blockage of a public street $145 was the fine,the contractor paid it ,but to me its a joke,and Bisley the mud on the streets is very real if you havent seen it yet just wait, on the diversion canal I saw a builder get fined $10,000 for tracking mud on the road,wait till they start fining pump companies for washing out on the ground thats coming to,environmentalists are looking for everything they can to clean up the pollution,wait till they learn what we spray these pumps down with were all doomed,

Unfortunately a situation like this should then become the customers problem if he doesn't have a place for you to set up, you know (Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part) but you providing the service, want to please the customer and make them happy so it's a catch 22. My opinion would be, if you couldn't set up safely tell the inspector your situation if you move the pump into the mud, Like 38zman said, (At least the part about the pump possibly turning over and possibly killing the workers).  May work and may not, but at least then he knows what could happen. The guilt trip might work unless the guy is a real a**.