Ok whats wrong with this picture. This is a picture of a real set up.
Todd 01-15-2008
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So what is wrong with this picture.


typesdubs 01-15-2008
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No it's not; no one's that dumb. We're all professionals remember. Any lateral loads on that outrigger/dunnage setup can make it all fall over real fast.

Bob 01-15-2008
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The picture is of a crane (no pump operator is that dumb).

He needed the layers to gain elevation to level his rig out; even if he went about it the wrong way.

The only thing he did right was to use a pad under the dunnage so as not to 'dent' the roadway.

This is a perfect example: Pump operators are at least as sharp as a crane operator. ;~) usually sharper !


bigaboy 01-15-2008
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ha, my wife spotted the discreppancy in two seconds. to bad she won't run a pump.

Boozehound 01-15-2008
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what's not wrong with this setup.

Bob 01-16-2008
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Here is a photo that I saw on the internet. When the guidelines on 'how much downforce can be supported by various soil types' were made there is a sentence that says; 'frozen ground shall not be assumed to have a higher value than the same ground in an unfrozen condition' ... this is why.


Bob 01-16-2008
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As an operator, I always hated the snow covered ground. It was like Forrest Gump and his box of chocolates "Ya' never know what you're going to get."

That being said; isn't it the smart move to be prepared for the worst case? How much due diligence do we, as operators, owe not only our co-workers, but our company? No reasonable & prudent individual would build an ark under the outrigger under those conditions; but perhaps four or five 4x6 x 4 ft pieces of dunnage, and then the 2x2 pad  would have been a good idea. It all boils down to the same thing every time.

How careful do you want to be?

I have been there and done that... and chunked the 4x6 off the pump. It is a personal decision that everyone must make. I am sure that in the operators mind he thought that he was ok; no one sets up in what they consider to be a dangerous way. It is all in how you were taught.

Another point for training the trainers. ;~)


Bob 01-16-2008
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The best "Set-up" photo I have ever seen was on this site. It was a Reed Pump. I wish that I knew who that was; he had it going on.

Todd 01-16-2008
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Here you go Bob sorry it took so long for me to find them. I made a folder in the hopper page with just dunnage stuff cool but here are the pics you were talking about.


Bob 01-16-2008
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Thanks, Todd

Those are not exactly the ones I remember (when I remember to remember), but that is  pretty much a text book set-up.

If you know who that operator is HE should get one of those hats you were talking about. Choice set-up!!! ;~)


38zman 01-17-2008
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MMMmmm jenga anyone oh this guy must like to play it at work If this person continues to do set ups like this I hate to say but we will see him in the news and it wont be in a good way