Jaybo | 02-12-2009 | comment profile send pm notify |
Just a question to put out there , on pipeline jobs is it common for a second man to be put on the job with the truck for riggin in and out or is it just a one man job ? I ask cause we have had some back injuries in the last couple of months and we ( the operators ) are considering making a push for it to be standard practice on pipeline jobs for 2 men to be sent to try and avoid anymore injuries. Just so everyone knows we use only 5" and 4" hoses ,management is to cheap to go for anything smaller!! |
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Bob | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
There are thousands of operators dealing with 4 and 5 inch line every day. I would suggest that either you are not lifting correctly or you and your fellow operators need to improve your physical conditioning program. |
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eugene | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
started out with 25 foot goodyear 2.5 inch hose with swaged ends and had sore shoulders but now i do 17 footer with internal ends. the hose is 50 foot divided by three something the shop guys do not have a concept of. they fit on my trucks small bed and i can grab a hose with one hand and a coupler, goes fast and much easier to dump the mud out of. so far i have convinced two others that 25 footer are a joke. |
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bigstick | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
When a contractor rents a pump, they also rent the system to properly place the concrete, therefor they must provide at least one helper to assemble the system and one to break it down. Ypu cannot safely operate a boom pump and worry about breaking down and washing out system. I always help, but it is the responsibility of the contractor to help the operator with the placement. At my age I would not even try to do 150 feet of four or five inch system. At least thats how we always have done it, I'm sure others have ideas on this subject but if the salesman does his job, the contractor will know up front the operator needs a helper. |
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TooTall | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Around here we generally send out an extra man on anything over 300 feet, depending on terrain, what size of system etc. Then we charge an additional $25 per hr. for an extra man. |
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bri | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
doesnt matter to me Ill do a thousand feet by myself I just love my freakin job. Pour it out! |
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Nebuchadnezzar | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I do 5" 1/4 wall pipe by myself........just saying |
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Raymond | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Uphill...in the snow...both ways? lol |
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Bob | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
hey bob who do you want running your high pressure pump, the guy running the hose or the guy running the job I NEVER want the guy running the pump to be running the hose, never.... did I mention, Never. An operator should help durring set up of system. If he is running the pour from the ground by the pump, he can sometimes help wash the pipe out. My take on the initial post on this thread was negative. He sounded to me like his reason for another man was not for the sake of safety, but rather that it was someone else that got hurt, not him. Putting someone else in harms way isn't the answer; finding out why the accidents happened and taking action to prevent them in the future is the smart move. And maybe, just maybe the "cheap" company has a reason for using the size pipe that it uses. And maybe, just maybe they aren't cheap, they are broke....... just like the rest of us. My perception of the title posting was negative and not at all "PART OF THE SOLUTION" Sorry, just my opinion, I would like to be wrong. |
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TooTall | 02-12-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Sounds like there's some people that need to spend some time on a big nasty line pump? If you're doing it right you should'nt have to pick up anything with concrete in it? |
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big.d | 02-17-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
when using pipeline we always put extra man out if job is awkward or further than 40m in distance. |