Bob | 09-25-2008 | comment profile send pm notify |
I remember when the JunJin products were introduced to the North American market. Many, many nay-sayers. Well check this out......... and remember that NEW, this machine only cost $300,000. Pretty good resale value; compare and see for yourself. The Korean pumps are VIABLE!!! 1999 Jun JinSize: 32 Meter New boom pipes Wear plate and cutting ring 90% New tires $139,000 USD» Contact A Sales Rep |
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eugene | 09-25-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
so the depreciation is 15K a year and first four years of interest cost is 15K a year followed up by years 5-9 of maintance. labor, fuel and overhead takes the rest. so the return on the ivestment is your profit. now buy another new machine and wait nine years to make money right. its costing 100K for good line pump set-up that you will pay on for five years before you can consider all the money becoming yours. look at the risk factors of the basic items that can happen while enduring that time frame. i tell people that iam allways two weeks away from any point in time that i could go out of business. its still hard to be successful and in the end its just a job.
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typesdubs | 09-25-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Is that what the pump sold for, or the asking price? Big difference. |
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Many | 09-25-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Bob,good question. Now my question.If one was going to buy a concrete pump how long are they looking for it to last?.Are they going to make there money off the resale value alone?. There are many of us out there that could make money today with a 2001 thompsen,mmmm.Perhaps some should really pay attention to the antic's of wall street.If I save a bunch right off jump street on the purchase price and started making bucks sooner it all evens out.But then again I cn't spell chevroooolet.
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Bob | 09-25-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Me either Many, The word "Chevy" has always seemed to get the point made. When we were running those aluminum booms we were thinking that it would be nice if they lasted the entire pour; now it is different/ better. I don't know about anyone else; I would think that particular machine would run [if maintained] forever. I would not hesitate to forward that opinion. The type of work that I suspect that you are now doing shouldn't tax a machine that hard. A well maintained JunJin/ Kcp/ Reed... anyone over there>>>------> will last the right guy a lifetime. The worlds oldest Schwing 28m, given TLC, would do the job. These are not good "fleet" pumps [the older ones I am talking about] But WILL they last? Hell yes!!! With a guy like you taking care of them ;~) |
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Raymond | 09-25-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
I have a special place in my heart for the Thomsen 2001. I ran one from '94-'98. then again as back up, when the Putz was in the shop as recently as 4 yrs ago. If you take the time to build hard lines for the hydraulics to run the length of the module and then side to side, it can be even more fun to operate. All the hydro hoses can be 3ft long and easily changed without crawling under/inside the machine...oh ya, and relocate the stack valves to the turret - then there's only a couple hoses that feed it instead of all the boom hoses in the turret that are impossible to reach...for...a....bigger...fella. A turbo on the Cat would be a BONUS... oh ya - and that $30K Thomsen makes the same per hour as a newer $150K-300K 32m... |
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Bob | 09-26-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
Raymond, We used to get away with running a pump forever because the operators, for the most part, knew as much about the pumps as the mechanics do now. Every operator had his own tools and spare parts. He knew what was wrong when it broke... and fixed it. No backup pumps, mechanics with 'crash trucks' and nine times out of ten, no way to call for help. Some of the younger operators still have that drive, curiosity and ability; but not very many. Give a REAL OPERATING ENGINEER one of today's modern pumps and he could leave the shop and stay gone till it was time to do scheduled maintence. Babysitter not needed. ;~) If you could do it on a 2001 a new pump is a piece of cake. |
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Raymond | 09-26-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
"If you could do it on a 2001 a new pump is a piece of cake." ...and they are... |
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TooTall | 10-01-2008 | reply profile send pm notify |
I ran an early Concord very similar to that pump. It still goes out every day its in a fleet of 10 Concords. As I've said before "Grease the $hit out of it and Pump Like Hell!" Its obviously not the brand new price that effects the resale so much as the reliability over all. If new pumps that started out "cheap" end up cheaper than you could pick-up a 37m SANY for about 30k in a couple years. I doubt it. Their rock'n & roll'n as I type (Not rock'n off & Roll'n over) SO far so good... |