safety cone
kneerick 12-28-2008
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these cones you guys are putting on the end of the hose,did i see them being put on a double ended hose?

TooTall 12-28-2008
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Perhaps the first ones we saw but we got Mr.Leers straightened out enough for the 2.0"safe" version. (HA,HA!)

bigstick 12-28-2008
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I must be missing something,  I dont understsnd the  purpouse of this.  Why would people attach a safetycone to a tip hose of a boom?  If it's to cut down on the concrete splatter why would you not just turn the volume up in order to fill the hose ?  Maybe im a little slow, I just dont get it.  I'm not making fun or trying to be mean, I just dont understand. I always see posts on here where operators brag about pumping 200 yards per hour;  I'd really like to see that happen through a 4 inch hose and a rubber orange safetycone.

Kris Leers 12-29-2008
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Thanks for straightening me out Too Tall, and if I do get of the right track you can still fix it with photoshop.

Big Stick, operators like me with a little stick often have to pump at low speed for example 4 cm layers on flaps etc.

On these jobs you have to pump at low speed so you can't fill up a 5" hose and you'll have concrete splashing around. In these cases I use the cone. Using a smaller hose would give me problems with plugs and releases under pressure.

Too Tall, I got from Santa a new cone and a hard hat with integrated safety glasses. On the picture below there was no photo shop involved. This cone is not plastic but completely out of rubber. I just need to find the time to prepare it.


bigstick 12-29-2008
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Thank you for the reply, sounds like a good idea.  Maybe i'll try it someday.  I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks.   one question I have for you is how do you make it stay on the tiphose?  I assume duct tape however I dont see how this will work at high volumes.  Thank you and have a nice day.

TooTall 12-29-2008
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Bigstick, I think the cone idea is for low volume applications that allows a steady flow without having to turn up the volume, especially in areas where reducing the material is not an option. For instance I think its a great alternative to a double 90 or an "S"bend flow reducer for Quad-lock or foam walls?

Pump-On Kris! and Holla Happy days!


cretehead67 12-29-2008
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Bigstick and tootall have very good posts regarding splash and safety.I have always filled the boom with mud,then backed the volume down a little.Works well in most situations,but not all. And anything is better than metal on the end. But I think you might be on to something with this big bright cone thing. You probably are going to catch alot of crap about it,before its all said and done.       Thank you for trying to make our jobs safer. If we all help with ideas on this, you can get rich and there wont be anymore double 90's rolling on to job sites. Idea #1 Paint it a diff color , so noone will Know what it is.


Bob 12-29-2008
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cretehead67

The color is one of the things that I like about it. That orange catches the eye. People are more aware of where the boom is. I am the guy that wants the entire tip hose orange.

I wish that someone here would use it, I would love to see it in action. ;~)


Bob 12-29-2008
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Kris,

Have you thought about these?

Maybe with a wrap or two of 100mph tape over them.

 They would not protrude and they would add to the 'bite'.


TooTall 12-29-2008
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Bob if you've got orange whips then I'll take a 3.5"?

I'd be all over the "Kris-Kone" but in the land of 3"hose its kind of pointless? If I put on a 5" most of the candy-asses up here would lose their minds and start holler'n & scream'n (no joke!) Then I'd have to run the hose and I'm not supposed to do that anymore.

But I still got my eye out for the right size cone! 


cretehead67 12-29-2008
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Bob                          You are right,I was thinking the same thing(orange is better than any color) the whole time that was typing my post. and your Idea is the next issue that needs to be adressed. attaching the hose to the cone. I dont know if you remember our conversation on the phone a few mos. back. I was trying to come up with a way to make up a long (40') , soft attachment for pumping flowfill around the precast walls on a lodge in my area. Well It worked out,But my problem is when you attach something to something else that has not been proven or tested by the manufacturer, arent you opening yourself up for trouble? I know this is a totally different situation, and a little closer too the tip. And I am in no way saying that the cone is a bad idea. But can altering a hose or screwing a piece of rubber to it cause someone to get hurt? I do know that when I made my homemade flowfill hose, I was a little nervous about liability.  maybe some safety straps and a couple of d-rings or hd clamps.

Raymond 12-29-2008
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 Kris Leers

Is that a '36 or '37?  Plymouth?

Good stuff!


Bob 12-29-2008
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cretehead67

You are right. When you do something new an unproven your ass is hanging way out there. That is why I want to watch one of these things work before I decide on - pro or con. With a 5" or maybe even a 4" this might be the way to go on low volume work. Pumping fast the hose is full and this deal makes no sense at all...... but pumping slow with a big hose is a "splatterfest". T. T. is right about the ops' in the northwest; they use 3" hose more times than not. This deal is for an area of the country in which a careful operator doesn't want a small hose because of the marginal crete. The ready mix guys could supply good mud and end all the R&R of looking for a splatter free pour. 3" hoses are the ultimate answer; too bad we can't use them everywhere without plugging all day long.

I bet I handed out a bushel basket of safety glasses to hose men. They usually wore them for a truck or two and then took them off. It would be so sweet if an operator could refuse to pour for a crew that did not wear safety glasses. Like that will ever happen...... yeah, right ;~)

This is how to wear them isn't it?


TooTall 12-30-2008
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Hey Bob you'll like this one, It started out as kind of a joke. I used to carry a crash helmet with a great big chin strap(like the kind they wear on the short-bus) whoever forget their hard-hat...  rode the short-bus! Now I've up-graded, I've got a firemans helmet with a splatter shield. Whoever is lacking a hard-hat and glasses...  gets to be the Fireman! A couple of my vatos locos amigos actually ask for it when they see me! HA,Ha,ha. They love it! Others have tried to burry it in concrete and get all huffy when I break it out, thats even funnier!  

Kris Leers 12-31-2008
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Raymond,

the car in the picture is a Plymouth '36. It's not mine, it belongs to Dapper Dan, the man on the left. He bought it last year in West Virginia, shipped it to Belgium and refurbished it. He's passionated about old cars, concrete pumping and music.

 


Kris Leers 12-31-2008
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Bob,

I've been thinking about screws as well but it works with plastic straps so I don't need to involve metall screws. The advantage of the plastic strap is that in case of a problem it breaks and no harm is done.

You wrote "I would love to see it in action". I've tried severall times to put a video on video.concretepumping.com but for some reason it doesn't work. If you want to see the video you can see it on my site: www.concretepumps.be.


Kris Leers 12-31-2008
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Cretehead67,

It's not my intention to repaint it so that people wouldn't see it's just a simple traffic cone and it's not my intention to make money out of it. The only thing I want is that it improves the safety in concrete pumping. It should be cheap and easy to make so that every operator that sees the advantages can use it.


Kris Leers 12-31-2008
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Bigstick,

I attach it with a velcro strap so that I can put it on and of easily. I don't use it when pumping at high volume.