Over the years I have fielded a lot of questions about setting the boom speeds on a Putz HBC remote.

One of the big issues we have are there are a lot of Ideas as to how it is done and not all of them are correct.

This list is compiled by Mark in the Remote Dept to help clear it up It is not intended to replace the Manual.

One of the issues is setting the Minimum starting point, this is what most operators continually try to adjust, The issue is the Min setting is affected by the Max setting, If the max is to High “over running the valve” the Min will feel to hot or rough, First test that all your Max settings are correct Max joystick is Max valve no more If you are at Max valve by the time you get to ½ joystick the Max value is to high and your starting feel will be bad.

This is the main issue with most remotes I reset, so start there.

Another thing is storing the set values; this is done by turning the remote off and removing the Tele-Teach Battery. If the settings are changing or not storing you either have the procedure wrong, a Tele-Teach battery issue or the remote is suffering an internal issue, the settings do NOT change from day to day, granting the obvious change with cold and warm oil.

If you have to reset the Teach values often you have a remote issue it needs to be repaired.

Make sure the Tele-Teach battery is fully charged, It is not uncommon to need to recharge the battery if you have a lot of changes to make the cells are not designed for running a long time.

This can be done in the Yard or on a job site, We don’t advise adjusting while pumping concrete. But it is a good thing to try your new settings with warm oil and concrete in the boom to see how the boom run’s. A quick final tweek while waiting on mud, or pour delay time can help you get it “Dialed in” to your individual feeling.

Tele Teaching Boom Speeds

1.     In PTO Safely set up the unit, outriggers stable, check for overhead obstructions like power lines

2.     Turn off the remote and insert Tele-Teach battery into transmitter.

Note : The Tele-Teach battery has limited cell power so it is more efficient to open and close the boom with your normal battery

3.     With the transmitter off, press and HOLD the two buttons on the Tele- Teach battery.

4.     Turn the transmitter on; you should take note that the green operational LED should be blinking twice as fast as it normally does. This lets you know that it is in teach mode.

5.      Bring truck engine to full throttle in PTO mode.

6.     Minimum and Maximum values have to be set individually for each function. Rabbit and Snail speeds also have to be set individually.

7.     To set maximum: Fully engage the joystick of the desired boom function to maximum speed. Press the + or – button on the teleteach battery until the desired speed is reached.  Make sure only to set the maximum travel of the valve to the valve stop and no further.  Over stepping the valve will cause that function to be less responsive, and may cause the boom to jump when the boom section is activated.

8.     To set minimum: Engage the joystick of the desired boom function until it just starts to move. This is the minimum speed of that function. Press the + or – button on the Tele-Teach battery until the desired speed is reached.

9.     You have now set the factory minimum and maximum settings for one function. To program other functions these steps will have to be repeated. This will also have to be repeated for rabbit and snail.

NOTE: It is important that the rabbit/snail switch is in either rabbit or snail.

Factory sets Snail to 50% max speed, you might like it at about 60%

On 24V systems make sure that the switch is not in the center position. This position is for user defined settings, which are programmed without a Tele- Teach battery. On a 12V system, make sure that the Switch in the 11o’clock position is in the down position, rabbit. That switch is also for user defined. Please contact Putzmeister’s Electronic Repair Center for help, or the instructions in the operation manual on user define settings.

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Hei. Thanks for the great info again. Specialy the first part about the min startingpoint is a problem at my pump. But I loose you a bit on the tele-teach batery... What is that?? On my remote I can just go in to the menu and adjust without one of those baterys.. But thats not a putz... But it is a HBC.. 

The other question is: I always pump with low revs. most stationary. Only more revs to increase the outputvolume. Should I still have full throttle when I adjust my boom?

Dipstick thanks for the reply. When adjusting any hydraulic component it is general procedure to adjust with the RPM at full factory RPM and warm oil this gives you optimum flow and pressure to operate the systems, Adjusting at lower RPM can vary your results. As far as setting other HBC remotes, I am not familiar with the style you are talking about, You can contact HBC though they have a web site http://www.hbc-usa.com/ They have a service and support page that I have used.

Tt , when you have EBC it only goes at Max rpm when the volymcontrol is over 75-80 % . Why should I run on max rpm on a Putz without EBC or turned of and run manualy ? When operating the boom ? I have not have any breakdown on the hydraulic becaus of the RPM . I run a putz with EBC and Putz adjusted the rpm down to My wishes and still guarantee on it . I had a Schwing S42SX for almost 9-10 years and run it on 1000-1200 rpm daily , and the volym on 100% some pouring Every week and I think it still running . Niklas on this site now moore about My old girl ! The money We save in fuel for 50 pumps over 10 year can repair more than one a pump with broken hydralicpumps or the Stiebelbox. Dipstick it is a company in Sweden who sell and repair HBC Remotes . The name is IRC , they have in Mockfjärd Dalarna . http://www.ircab.se/

Thanks guys! I guess that when I have this remote with adjustment program then I dont need this tele teach batery. With my remote There is a + and - button on the side. When I hold those and swich on the remote.... than hold + on the gass and sound the horn I am in the program for adjusting boom speed. Realy great actualy. when you get used to the system a bit you can adjust any time during a poor. (but best in between loads though.. Would be quite fiers to do it while your pumping ;-)

Vasa I only meant to imply that for setting purposes it is recommended to set hyd functions at full RPM and warm oil, this is normal for Setting any Hyd component. When operating EOC or EBC can run at any RPM you are comfortable with as long as it performance good for you. On a different note, you do know that to teach the remote you will need to turn off EBC and only teach the normal functions without EBC influance.

For what its worth, you may request from Putzmeister or even HBC the initial build test results of the radio unit which includes minimum and maximum voltages of the radio remote so that even your 5+ years old pump has the same settingsto suit the valve bank, as it was when new. Putzmeister (and to some extent) HBC should have figures you can match to using a simple volt-meter / multimeter and testing them at the valve bank soleniod. This method is the most efficient for the machine.

This may be necessary from an electrical POV as the joysticks as they wear may begin to 'wonder' from the initial settings, to points where they should be tested and adjusted every 500 pumping hours.

From this experience, you don't have to rpm at max if your not comfortable with that procedure. On some machines this could be done with pto engaged electrics on and engine at standstill without the alternator having major influence.

I was asked to go a little further into setting the remote.

If you have a 24V Ergo remote you have a function called "User Defined" this allows you to adjust boom functions without a battery to you personal liking, It is outlined in the Operation manual for your pump but It is easier to see in a video.

PM did a video called Quick Start and it has a lot of info in it. Todd has dissected it and placed it on his Video section for your ease to see. This is the link,

http://video.concretepumping.com/videos/703/putzmeister-remote-preferences

Please give it a try, the beauty of it is If you mess it up it does not affect Rabbit or Snail.

I do advise to test drive it in the yard to learn the sequence and pick an arm like B that wont make much difference to you if it isn’t perfect the first time, It takes a little practice but you will find it to be helpful.

I wanted to keep this post simple but this is concrete pumping, Nothing stays simple.

Setting the boom with Tele-Teach is the easiest way to go.

You can test current but you will see in the reply I got from the Radio repair Dept it is a little more involved you need to measure the current going to the valve.

This is just a Basic setting though, due to Coil, Valve, Cylinder differences it will still need to be fine tuned to feel.

Coils age, Valves age this is why it is needed from time to time to adjust the settings.

Alan,

Checking the current at the valve is easiest when you have a tool made up to specially go between the coil plug and the coil. This is something that not a lot of people have and will only suit you if you recorded the min and max current readings for every function while the boom was already set  correctly. PM does not record the final current output settings for each boom function. The factory values that HBC sends the remotes out with are all re-adjusted at the PM factory via a tele-teach battery using the same procedure as listed at the beginning of this post. This will give the most repeatable results because the current requirement of the valves might vary over the life of the pump. If you have to adjust it weekly or monthly there might be an issue somewhere and that is where it might benefit you to see with a meter how much you have had to adjust it to get it to operate acceptably. 

Alan hope this helps.

Travel t I always operate the remote on the factory setting I think it runs great on that setting . I dont know how it is on bigger pumps I only run a 46-5 . I learnd to operate with a b&w remote on a Schwing 36 and 24 m so a modern proportional remote is a dream to run on factory settings .

I agree with you when I started it was a black/White hard wire, Radio was a dream and in its infancy. With the remotes and pumps today they are so much smoother to run. Thanks

Dipstick:  If your running a Korean brand then the remote will have two buttons on the end of the remote or the bottom.  To program turn remote off push the two buttons at the same time and power back up.  The rest of the programming is just as Travelteck described.  In the past I have found and I'm not sayin you do this dipstick.  The one problem with them was/is once programmed almost everybody wants to f#^K with it until they have the boom a weapon to run, and insist they did nothing to it.  You take it out run it for a day set back up.  Ihave seen remotes go back to HBC and come back with no fault found.

Vasa.. You might just be lucky. The 52 schwing I had since it was new was a dream to drive. Never came up in me to adjust anything. But I had some more pumps straight from the factory. (specialy the one I have now) which are just a joke in setup. Maybe it depends on who at the factory did the final adjustments or if they did any adjustments at all..

Basicly I don't mind so much how the remote is set up. You get used to it anyway.. But what its all about for me is the minimum 'startingspeed'  if you know what I mean. It should be possible to move your endhose only about an inch (or 2) and without making the hose swing. Same for all the sections.