Shortrigged on pumping side!!!!!!!!!
Tiago40m 01-17-2009
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Ok if everyone talks aboout my set up then i must say something about this!!!

Just going tru some websites the other day and came across this...
Is this pump really shortrigged on the working side???
Hey operator i know you are on this website, i dont want to create any problems but i think this is a little bit over the limit!!!!


Raymond 01-17-2009
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Left front looks short to me too.  Nice eye.

TooTall 01-17-2009
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AH he's fine! It wont flip all the way over, It'll just lay over and lean on the builing? What a dumb a$$!

truckshow 01-17-2009
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what's up with the tip section??  Looks bent or something...  No excuse for shortrigging like that too... Nice find Tiago.... I hope that operator identifies himself,     I 'd love to hear the reason for this one!!!


TooTall 01-18-2009
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Here's what happened when he short-rigged the back out rigger. Actually where is the back out-rigger? It was'nt even out, only down!.....again.....what a dumb-a$$!

Drew AUS 01-18-2009
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people like that make me sick !!!!

what excuse is a rigit one >???? hmm let me think ... none!!!

I hope that piece of S**T gets all he deserves

I cant think of one good reason besides having a gun pointet at you !


Many 01-18-2009
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I wouldn't have wanted to be in the shop when that call came in.Actually I have,not a good thing.

Kris Leers 01-18-2009
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Hi Tiago, Hi TT and the rest of you,

I think I'm the dumb ass operator you're referring to.

I have to disappoint you but it's not my pump and I'm not the operator. I just went to Dublin to take a look at the pump and I took some pictures. And indeed, he's shortrigged on the working side and I can't see why because there is plenty of space on the other side.

Truckshow, it's not the tip section and it's not bent. It's the third section in a 5 section boom and it's the way it's made in the factory. 


Kris Leers 01-18-2009
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Tiago40m 01-18-2009
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Hey kriss, i'm sorry if i disrespect you in any way, wasnt my intention, since you werent the operator.

I mean i have done dangerous stuff too, but i dindn't an way out.

This guy does the completly opposite, fully extendes the outriggers on the unweight side????? and shortrigges the working side. I dont understand, theres got to be more to this story........

ShortStik 01-18-2009
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tiago, you think there would be be but lookin at the pics,  its a drive in and setup as is.

I find it facinating how the "dead" side has fully extented outriggers.

kris, you are alot braver then i am.  i would have not bee anywhere near that pump.  i would have said my piece, called a taxi, called WCB/OH&S if no body would listen.

those are either balls of steel or a scull of lead


Kris Leers 01-18-2009
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Don't worry Tiago, I don't feel disrespected. 

You say: "I don't understand, there's got to be more to this story."

I think the driver just misjugded the distance of the outrigger and didn't take the time to move the pump a little bit. 

He did take the time to fully extend the outriggers on the opposite side but as you all know, in Ireland they even drive on the wrong side of the road...

(To all of you driving on the left, just joking about driving on the wrong side, please don't take this as an insult: the operator was polish and I know people as well in Ireland as in Poland and I get along with them very well.)


bisley57 01-18-2009
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Drew in Aus,where I am from we don' talk about fellow operators as refered to in your little message.By saying "he deserves what he gets" is a bit harsh since I know you don't want anyone hurt near or around a concrete pump.

RAM03 01-18-2009
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it is setups like this one that will get you the 15 min of fame that you dont want. hey kris by looking at your pic not only is he short rigged but there is no dunnage and the front drivers outrigger pad is buckled up. the operator may have misjudged but it looks to me like he was in a rush or just didnt care. i beleive that this operator deserves whatever CONSRUCTIVE critisism that they receive. an extra 20 min to set the pump up right and these pics would be recieving praise not being ripped a new one for a bad setup. RUSH SETUPS AND PURE LAZINESS KILLS, GUYS!!!!

CretePumper 01-18-2009
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Somebody is in for a reality check, this operators complacency, ignorance and shear disregard for Safety is going to prove to be detrimental I reckon. Such is life, when you substitute, Education, and good judgment for Luck, the problem with luck is it's probabilities, you just never know when it will run out !

Many 01-18-2009
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One thing I noticed is how close that rigger is to the wall with a standard pad.Besides the short rig that scares the heck out of me.

I wonder just how many on this list has had to cut the boom off to upright the truck,I have seen it.It was a brand new 31m,less than a month old.Operator chose to short rig on a street (enough room for 52m fully extended).When he finished the pour talking to crew swung to other side to water wash,forgetting the outrigger.

Safety has no boundries


TooTall 01-18-2009
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Sounds like the makings for a joke??? A Belgian business man visits a Polish operator in Ireland and then..........

TooTall 01-18-2009
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Bob must be at Church today?

TooTall 01-18-2009
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Many, I'd be willing to bet that most short-rigging accidents result from the same situation you mentioned?... Short rigged on the NON-working side and then asked to boom over to blow out or catch a pier-pad or sono-tube and the operator forgets that he's short-rigged ......

Bob 01-18-2009
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TooTall

I just got out of the Ashram - [just kidding]

I think that you are right.

ps:  my new/improved program is to shut the xxk up unless there is some wrong or dangerous info out there.

Ya'll are doing fine - I am all smiles ;~)


Raymond 01-18-2009
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Many

Safety does have some boundaries...The Putz I run has OSS (one sided support).  If you turn the key to engage it, a sensor won't allow the boom to move to the short rigged side of the machine.   ...However, you have to turn the key to engage it - so if you don't use it, it can't help you. --I have to say, nothing can replace using the good 'ol brain...


Many 01-18-2009
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I know it's just a bad thought I have of how distractions cause disasters.I forgot to mention within that same 30 day period in the same subdivision an operator had my old 36m.We were probably 1000' apart when I noticed something strange.The pump was listing 40 degrees to port.

It didn't take long to figure this deal out,I ran to that pump and looked it over.The operator had no clue,he set up on the bank WAY to close and it gave way.After getting a loader with a full bucket of dirt he rested on the off side and was able to bring it back without damage.

Yes,safety has no boundries but operator error contributes to at least 95% of accidents.That's why us old salts need to help educate in a respectfull maner.

My Best

 


Raymond 01-18-2009
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Many-

"listing 40 deg to port"

That's awesome!  I use that kind of lingo when decribing problems to the mechanic too...Gotta small hydro leak: starboard side barrel, just aft of the palm valve...

good stuff


SUPERDOFFER 01-19-2009
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no coment

Many 01-19-2009
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Such a shame.Do I see a lack of dunage on the visable riggers? It would be correct in saying WoW?

concrete canon 01-22-2009
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here's the link to the page

http://www.vastgereden.nl/mediabase/image/3642/695ef39521/betonpomp-staat-op-kantelen.html