danielmowen | 05-22-2013 | comment profile send pm notify |
I got a tb 105 when im booming out and it get about 10ft from being maxed out it starts stalling out but will eventually get their and will do the same going back in I checked all the sliding parts and lubricated them and still dont work like it should anyone got any ideas? |
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Mr.HighRise | 05-22-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
check your tension on your cable, and check all the guides to see if any are worn out, or 130 was doing the same thing had to replace all the guides some are a b to get at, not sure about a 105 but the guides for the 130 are a hard plastic and a lot of them to check |
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cretepumper2 | 05-22-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
Sounds like the sliders/ guides are worn out. Also a liberal dose of lubricant on the rails might help temporarily. Apply the lubricant daily if you're using it a lot. You might also check that the upright cable pulleys on the side are not getting caught anywhere. I've had that happen before. |
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cretepumper2 | 05-22-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
Here is a link to an article that should help you with tensioning the drive cable and also some lubrication tips. http://www.concretepumping.com/images/putz/TBChainandCabletension.pdf Also check out Putzmeisters website for Telebelt tricks of the trade. Lots of helpful info. |
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Travelteck | 05-23-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
The guys are on the proper track, Cabel Tension and LUBE are the primary things to look at. ALSO do not use grease or Graphite spray, Don M always says NAPA chain and Cabel lube works best and CLEAN the slide pads inside and outside also need to be in good working order, the outside are easy to see but the inside ones in the end of the frames are harder to see and get neglected. |
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Travelteck | 05-23-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
Just read the other post Cabel tension is 2500 PSI it is measured with the Gauge on the Porta Power spplied with the unit, if you have lost it any porta power will work with the right fittings just make sure to put in a gauge. 2500 PSI PMA can supply a new Porta Power kit that includes all the needed stuff to tension the belts and cable. 800 890 0269
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FunnyBoom | 05-23-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
I wouldn't say the chain & cable lube is clean but it does do the job |
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crete | 05-24-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
I thought at one time the school of thought was to run the slides dry. Also if the cable was loose he should hear slipping at the drive motor. |
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Travelteck | 05-24-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
Yes Crete you are correct, IF the unit is sliding well and clean, no lube is needed, but with environmental factors lube can be needed. Rule of thumb has been stay clean and dry as long as it is sliding well, but once you start lubricating then you will most likely need to continue to lube. Testing at PMA found the Drag with new clean slide pads was similar or better than the drag with lube, and in reality with the wrong lube the drag goes up. This being said there is no replacement for clean and well maintained slide components. |
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whole9yards | 05-24-2013 | reply profile send pm notify |
Greetings from Australia. The current mode of thought is DRY RAILS. NAPA Chain and cable lube tested best, but only a couple points better than dry rails. As Alan said, NO GRAPHITE. Graphite softens the UHMW slides. The dirtier rails get, with splatter buildup, the harder the telescope drive has to work. MAKE SURE the wear slides are not worn out. The 105 has male blocks on arms 3 and 4, and female blocks on 2 and 3. There are also blocks in the upper rocker arms of arm 1. Female blocks wear on the bottom and sides. Male blocks wear on the top and sides. They start with equal thickness on all 3 sides. Replacement is not all that bad. It takes about 10 minutes to do each one. See Tricks od The Trade article http://www.putzmeisteramerica.com/pdfs/80152_trade.pdf Another consideration is motor wear. A worn motor will leak at high pressure. With telescope at the stops, listen for bypassing flow in the motor. Check with flow meter if you have one. If you don't have a flow meter, 105 Feeder motors and telescope motors are the same. Record feeder belt speed and telescope extension speed at full RPM. Swap the motors and note any differences. Of course, the feeder motor might be worn as well, but you should get some difference in readings. |