The accident was caused by stop and go traffic.
Todd 04-29-2014
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Highway exit ramp.


Todd 04-29-2014
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operator walked away


bisley57 04-30-2014
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Seat belt  no doubt


Todd 04-30-2014
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I was corrected on how this accident happen. 

The accident was caused by stop and go traffic. When the traffic sped up my operator did as well.

Cars were cutting his lane short trying to get ahead. When the traffic came to a stop caused by a previous accident he could not stop and took the shoulder to avoid rear ending the cars that took his space needed to stop. The operator made the right call to take the shoulder, The truck can be repaired.


putzman1975 04-30-2014
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you wont see me roll the truck over. i  hit the idiot that cut me off.


ShortStik 04-30-2014
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me too putz.


Doug 05-01-2014
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So what is the lesson learned? And what do the members on this site take away from this Todd?


180 flyer 05-01-2014
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Good that the op walked away. BUT, heavy traffic is not a legitimate cause for running off the road and rolling a vehicle. If the driver ran off the road to avoid hitting the vehicle in front of him/her, they were following too close and not allowing for the traffic conditions. I doubt the police report faults traffic conditions. With 15 yrs in concrete pumps and over 1.5 million accident free miles in class 8 trucks prior to that, I've had close calls in heavy traffic. Happens in LA traffic all the time. But if I'd ever run off the road because of traffic in front of me, it would have been my fault, pure and simple. 

 


Many 05-01-2014
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That's a fact jack

ShortStik 05-01-2014
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nailed it flyer


putzman1975 05-02-2014
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agree with 180 flyer


smalls 05-02-2014
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following distance its not your f150 its a 60000lbs concrete pump

 


ConcreteJeff 05-03-2014
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I wouldn't go off-roading in a pump to avoid an accident unless absolutely necessary. Yes, following distance is key but you shouldn't have to be half a mile behind the car in front of you to avoid all of the morons cutting you off five feet in front of your bumper.


Many 05-04-2014
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http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/Resources/res_stats_services/Pages/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx#question8

 

Preventable Traffic Crashes
According to the Council's Guide to Determine Motor Vehicle Accident Preventability, the definition is: A preventable accident is one in which the driver failed to do everything that reasonably could have been done to avoid the crash. In other words, when a driver commits errors and/or fails to react reasonably to the errors of others, the Council considers an accident to be preventable. When a driver commits no errors and reacts reasonably to the errors of others, the Council considers the accident to be nonpreventable. Decisions on preventability should be made in accordance with the procedures outlined in the Guide, which contains guidelines for preventability of specific types of accidents and many case studies.


Beast 05-05-2014
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we have terrible traffic in south la , and as much as I feel for the driver in this case , it is his fault , unfortunately our jobs require us as professional drivers to account for other drivers ignorance , so a reply to a earlier statement , yes if you have to allow 1/2 mile between you and the next car to prevent a accident , you do it , and all the statements of not taking the shoulder to avoid a collision between a 25 -50 ton machine to a 2-4 ton automobile , you all are showing ignorance as well , we should avoid collisions with other vehicles at all costs, that could be your wife, children, mother, father, loved one in that vehicle , a machine can be replaced , lives cannot.


ShortStik 05-05-2014
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big city, small city, vehicals big and small are going to do stupid things in front of heavy slow brakings units on the road.  have a smoke, coffee, music, know where you're at, where you're going, leave early, 2nd job when i GET there.  i can't make the CUSTUMER go fast, im not driving a pickup and race car driving is for the track.  Good dispatch, calling dispatch, rest is to the pump gods

i am not going to take the truck off the road for something stupid infront of me, maybe a school bus.  My fault or truck manfuction, the ditch if there is one or a swerve though i don't want to imitate seniors in florida down a sidewalk.  


ShortStik 05-05-2014
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BEER IS BETTER COLD AND WHISKEY CAN WAIT


Beast 05-06-2014
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shortstick, I will take the pump off road to avoid smashing into a smaller vehicle or another big rig , if it means totalling a pump or putting myself at a higher risk for injury or death , so be it , I will not kill another motorist to save a machine or my own ass when anyway you look at it , it happened in front of you and its gonna be your fault , so I will not risk my families well being to save a piece of machinery or my own ass , I will take the ditch , the woods ,


ShortStik 05-06-2014
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ok


Dipstick 05-11-2014
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There are actualy situations where the driver in front can be blamed for an accident like this. Keeping distance is something you don't only do being the car behind. When you overtake there is also a sertain distance you have to keep before moving back to the right lane.. Small cars tend to squeeze themselves right in front of big trucks only keeping 10 meters distance. If 2 or 3 cars do this at once and then suddenly hit the brakes the truck has no chance stopping in time. When small cars pas a truck they should stay on the left lane untill there is a safe distance to the truck they just pased and then move to the right lane. If they don't do this the truck will have to slow down all the time untill at the end he is standing still.. In this case only an honest witness can tell us who was at fault here..


ShortStik 05-11-2014
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Note, pic not quite to scale.

PM rush hour traffic this past friday

im the red line.

orange is solid traffic going 1st gear speed.

purple is little yaris one kid in shot gun, one kid back seat.

yaris cuts in front of me, slam on brakes to enter pretty much stoped traffic.  hammer brakes and air horn.  if yaris dont gun it, she'll be a little more compact.  I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE TRYING TO SWERVE. STAIGHT AND TRUE.  once i leave my lane, I AM AT FAULT.  watch some dash cams utubes from russia and see how well swerving a big rig works out, or look at the pic above.

they want to cut in front a big rig, their vehical has now become a cushion between the big rig and whatever is in front.  cant fix stupid, even with a possible 63 000kg rig in the ass.