Well i need to upgrade my truck to tow my schwing 750.Looking to have water and air onboard.What are you guys running for a set up? air pressured water tank or mechanical? How big a water  tank and what drive train has proven good for you? show me some pics of your set up, thanks!

I have 3 ,  f450 diesel , dodge 3500 diesel , chevrolet 3500 gas,  all have gas powered honda water pumps and 100-120 gallon tanks , no air , we actually suck sponges , thru our line.

What size  water pump are you using ? I like to suck the sponge but too many times i have set ups that dont allow it. How does the gasser chevy handle the loads? my 7.3 ford has me spoiled hauling but the oil burners are way more expensive.

I run a ram with the 6.7 diesel and it has proven to be reliable (once I got rid of the DPF) For my water run a 150 gal air pressurized tank running off a 389 cc Honda air compressor. Only downside to air pressurized tank is when you want to get water from a RM truck you have to relive air pressure and your hose is unless until you pressure back up. If you're doing less than 3 jobs a day a 100 gal tank should suit you just fine.  If you do decide to go with an air pressurized tank, be sure to put a check valve on the tank where your air line goes in. If not water can splash back through your airline and into your compressor. 

got a 50 gallon AG tank like $150- today with a 1.25 inch vacume hose for a gravity feed for tkb-30 I could go empty on my pick up to county job site and fill in advance with their three gallon a minute well, took awhile but I was ready to flush out hot mud just in time.

Guys I had one of a kind pump kit put it all together my self 250 gallons water and I could have hot water in the winter14 ft gooseneck trailer I built my own water tank but I sold out last Feb.

To Goat. What's your wash up procedure to get by with so little water?  I clean my hopper out then pump the sponge and water thru the line twice. That takes over 100 gallons alone. Looking for a way to conserve water. Crete

Here is a pic of my pump. 250 ga. water,150' garden hose,4200 psi pressure washer,160' of pipe,175' of rubber all 3". 2" quick dump into hopper for water washing system. Weighs just under 12k.

I run a 3 inch pump powered by a honda motor , and the gas does alright , not as strong as the diesels , but it gets the job done.

Wow. 250 gallons is awesome.thinking 80-100 tank, 12 cfm compressor  to help pull the sponge back on a 12 foot flat bed 1 ton diesel.run mostly 4" lines here and the job sites are always way too tight for a big set up like crete's.should get the job done til I can get a truck mount pump.

wow big trailer means big truck equals truck mount. Here we have hills and off road, my one ton single rear wheel truck and tag pump does the job. My wash is push out the mud and keep the lines full of water as you break them down. My secret is 17 foot 2.5 inch hose. Those suppliers do not know how to divide fifty by three ha ha. So anyways we are ideally no more than thirty minutes from plant washing and in the cruel world that is not possible. I have washed the pump with a rubber feeder tub and three gallons of water, takes time and is hard on your hands but you can drive away happier but you will get that build up residue later.

On washing hose twice I was self taught and just habit I guess. I will drop back to only once. The reason I have everthing on the trailer is so I don't have a extra truck dedicated just for pumping. I have a dually Dodge cummins that pulls it around perfect.

Crete, I will shake out my end hose and rinse it out then suck two balls back in to the hopper with about 5-10 gal of water in between the sponges. I take the end hose off because sometimes I need help from a blowout cap getting the balls all the way back to the hopper. 

I built this contraption about four years ago and ingotta say having all that storage on the trailer is nice. Water tank and compressor are mounted on the trailer as well. Plenty of room for hoses, clamps, reducers and what not. 

What size air compressors you guys using?

And also. What kind of Honda powered water pump? Also the pumps I've looked at wont allow for the water to be shut off with a hose end nozzle. They dont have a bybass built into them. Looking for a hypro type unit already mated to a Honda.

We use a 5.5 hp Honda powered double tank wheelbarrow compressor mainly used to run nail guns. It has lots of air to run diaphram pumps. Hypro pumps are noisy and wear out way too soon to be worth bothering with. Over-hyped , over-rated and over-priced and very short-lived.

Guess I forgot about going that way Eric. What siz is your pump. I have a brand new air compressor the same as yours that's been laying around the shop. Pressure washer is nice but sometimes a little much. Terry

im looking for a 80 gallon or 60 compressor tank to use for a pressurised water tank. Then pressurise with air maybe use a gas compressor of a 12 volt one. 

8 to 10 inch double diaphram, measuring the the round diameter of the shell. 6 inch is a bit small

mine is just a normal impeller water pump

Here is a 10 foot bed with 300ft of 2 1/2" and 200 ft of 2" hose, the tank holds 150 Gallons and gravity feeds to the hydraulic powered water pump that robs its power from the re-mixer auger motor and produces 100 psi It can fill the hopper in 90 seconds. This set up is the best. I have used air. I have used gas powered pumps. nothing comes close to this, Same water pump set up as most boom pumps.

Eric I didn't have anything to teaching Terry, being self trained mean a lot of screw up and plugs,Eric aren't you in my age group,I like this site cause its just enough remembering I want of what I used to do by by Im going to Lake Guntersville for 10 days.

Pumpatude thats a very nice set up! I could easily tap into the secondary hydro pump. The hypro pumps are readily available its just matching up the flow and pressure with the system that is difficult, what oil motor to buy?

Also RPM of the hydraulic motor is a factor. I would think it would be a low RPM system.

Putz sells an optional "water pump kit" for a line pump which includes SOME of the plumbing and the schematic. It is a little expensive but FYI the entire kit can be duplicated for less than half the cost at your local tractor supply store.

Well today i finally got the balls to try cleaning out with air.. I used my gas compressor a 3" ball and 3" blow out cap. I don't have but soon will a dump valve on the cap but still went for it. It went extremely well other than blowing the ball across the yard as expected. Wow it works great! I then dumped five gallons in the hose and pushed it through again. Much easier than screwing around with water. The more you do it the better i'll get at it.I was suprised at how little air it took.

On a different note i still haven't hooked up a water system i found out the flow and hydro pressure for a roller pump or maybe a air diaphram like Eric? One thing i found out today is i could wash with way less water now.  

Brian Did you put any water between the crete and sponge? Terry

Hey Terry, no not at first i just pushed a 3" walmart ball through. then  washed it with 5 gallons of water with the ball behind it. It made the hoses  very clean, plus the clamps didn't get the usual concrete on them.

Goat only thing I see wrong your hopper is to high for RM shutes I cut the deck out and set my pump down low but other t5hat that its just find

Biged, the back of the hopper is 50" from ground level, plus all the RM trucks around here are front discharge So hopper height isn't really an issue. Only time I ever had a problem with hopper height was when pouring with a dial mixer.  The pump doesn't actually sit in the trailer deck, when I bought the trailer I cut out the entire center of it and welded in cross braces in where the pump axle would mount and also one where the tung would hook up to the truck. Wanted to keep access to the underside of the pump the same as how it would be if it where just on a regular axle. 

Brian now that you are an airman on blowout , using a double diaphragm water pump is a no brainer :-)

Thanks for the input guys. First of all as far as air clean out; yesterday i tried reversing and blowing back with a ball. it went great other than being left with a chopped ball and a hopper full of mud : ) still experimenting.. As far as the ultimate water system? i may find a 40 gallon compressor tank to compress with air, however i already have a square tank installed so i could just hook up a diaphram pump and gravity feed to it. Eric lots of questions on the pump.. Do they use an extreme amount of air? (seem to be rated at 25 cfm?) also, what size is best ? 45gpm and choked down? or 15gpm .  i called the companys tech but not much help was given.

Be careful with pressurized air/water tanks. The reason I use a air diaphragm pump is to limit liability and risk. When they fail, nobody gets hurt. IF you are going to start fresh with pressurized air, buy a proprietary one with a certification plate on it. The diaphram uses very little air. Go to Ingersol Rand / ARO for specs. 1 inch in out, 8 inch dia rubbers shoudl be good. They make 100 psi and pump fast.Any vessel that holds water is your water tank. What more do you need ?

So i finally got in touch with a sales person that actually knew about diaphram pumps, as far as pressure and volume. Apparently they are 1-1 which means they take as much air as the water they put out and the pressure is equal to the air pressure. There are many different types or sizes  but for my needs i think i'll go with a 45 gallon /m out put and choke it down. They only take as much air as needed. Ok so my calculations are: a 5 CFM compressor will spit out 5x7.48 gallons per cubic foot=37 gallons of water. yea ha..

We had a 300l galvanized tank made up with a 12 volt, 17 amp, 70psi diaphragm pump(4gpm) that runs off the aux power circuit on cab/chassis models.  the pump is self priming, and under 200 bucks.  The tank is heated for winter use from the urea tank coolant lines.   

Thats a nice truck and set up. I've thought of putting a bed like that on my rig but haven't pulled the trigger. Did a 12 volt diaphram pump have enough power to do the job? i wonder maybe two in series? I've got a line on an air. Those air pumps are very interesting, they can also be used for oil changes. Well, got two jobs to go pump..(boom)

REED's Dealer in Johannesburg, South Africa, sent me this pic- he said the A40HP been "Africanized" (which apparently means adding a few guards to make sure no one steals the battery)

Pretty cool that he's towing the pump with a F250...

That looks like a really nice pump! Well today i put together and tried a compressed air tank water system. I got a free 25 gallon comp. tank and stripped it, then added air and water outlets. I put a 1" elbow on the bottom and fed the hose with 1" pipe. I used a 1/4" air hose to pressurize. WOW! it doesn't take much air or pressure to get great wash out water. Then i tried a small electric 120 volt tire inflator pump with very low air output. It also put out a good pressure. Now i am ordering a 12 volt air compressor for an alternate feed, so i don't have to run the gas motor.

I orderd a 12 volt compressor and mounted. it works well i get 35-40 psi continuous. if i need more pressure the gas can be fired up. I used it today. didn't need the gas.