TRANSITION PRODUCTS TO PROTECT THE CONCRETE PUMPING INDUSTRY
Todd 09-18-2008
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Check out their web site http://www.seattletarp.com/Concretetransitioncovers.asp

 


Bob 09-18-2008
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As far as I am concerned, this is the best protection that you can give those people

that must work around the back end of your pump.

 'Mon-back' guys, inspectors and ready mix people are required to be there

and deserve your protection.

A protective cover on the 6x5 is also a safe bet. ;~)


Kretch 09-18-2008
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The CMPA should make this a requirement to all pump manufacturers on new equipment from the factory.

Bob 09-18-2008
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I feel the same way.

A good idea is a good idea;

it doesn't matter whos it is.


DeReK 09-18-2008
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is there a similar product for line pumps?

Big Tobacco 09-18-2008
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DeRek,

If you click on the link from Todd's original post you will go right to Seattle Tarps website where you can order a transition cover for your line pump. As I've stated before "All Brundage-Bone concrete pumps (from our smallest line pump all the way up to our 63 meter booms and all placing boom pumps are required to use a transition cover at all times". This policy is strictly enforced company wide... Unfortunately I have seen one of these covers work on more than one occasion. Some of you will remember my tale of blowing a 6-5 reducer while running a Schwing 8000, the cover did its job, deflecting all of the slurry and gravel away from me, the inspector, the concrete foreman and the ready-mix drivers. Had that cover not been in place... who knows...

Guys, please take a few minutes to follow the link to Seattle Tarps website and look at the product. I feel that these products are worth their weight in goal. If they prevent you, one of your employees or someone elses employees from being injured or killed, hasn't it paid for itself..

Lets all be safe out there guys...

Big T


Todd 09-18-2008
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I know we are going to start to see more and more of accidents with these higher output pumps. I would love to see the CPMA come out with a recommendation.

I also think that each pump owner should have one of these on his pump before something happens. They are cheap compared to an accident.

Really think about it guys. Its not just about safety we have an obligation to our fellow man to do what we can to protect each other and to be as safe as possible.

 


Joe 09-18-2008
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 The darn things work. Are they fool proof??? Of course not but any preventative measurements that everybody and any body should take.A smart man once said 1oz of protection is worth 1oz of cure. Protect your investment you company, co workers, employees and most of  all fellow human beings.

Raymond 09-18-2008
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Todd --

These covers are a really good idea.  I would encourage everyone - especially owner operators (the guys with alot to lose if an accident happened) to run one of these.  I wouldn't wait for a recomendation from a manufacturer's association or the ACPA to recognize their importance before you get one... 

I've never seen one come apart like Big T has - and I don't care to...I'm just glad I have one if it does.

OE-3 was using one...I think?


Wolfman 09-18-2008
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I sure wish i would have had one of these for the trailer pumps i ran at the citycenter project(bsa14000).They look as if there very easy to put on too.Going to show this to my owner and the contractors.If they don't buy i will.at least one to carry from pump to pump.Thanks Todd

pudg 09-19-2008
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I agree,good product,but what if you tarp your trucks,wouldnt this pretty much do the same,plus it protects more ,all the way up the reducer,we also tarp almost 1/2 the deck pipe,I am just asking and in no way bashing this product.I am just asking everyone opinion,I am a proponent of tarping trucks because it protects the truck and it helps out with covering all the pipeline at the rear of the truck and protecting r/mix drivers and anyone in that area of the truck. 

Joe 09-19-2008
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Tarping is fine dut doesnt provide nearly the  protection of the netting of the transition cover. They will make it go all the way up to your deck pipe if you like. We have some that do that but must of them are of the shorter version

Bob 09-19-2008
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pudg

Tarping the back end does almost the same thing.


pudg 09-19-2008
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I was under that impression,but I am not against that cover I just think of it as killing 2 birds with one stone with the tarps but those covers are just like the tarps getting the operators to use them everyday is the battle,and the one day you dont use them is the one day you need them

Bob 09-19-2008
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Isn't THAT the truth !

Raymond 09-19-2008
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Bob....explain this:

"Tarping the back end does almost the same thing."

 

 


Raymond 09-19-2008
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pudg --

There's only 4 fasteners.  It may take 22 seconds to install one.  So simple, a boy could use one...

If an operator can remember to turn in a time card - then they can be trained to use one of these.


Bob 09-19-2008
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Bob....explain this:

We are talking about containing an eruption of a liquid [with some solids]. It is not like there is any 'stored' energy like opening up a line full of compressed air; it is explosive and then nothing. You can not compress a liquid.

If you look at a typical tarp job there is a loose fitting cover draped over the back end of the pump. All it has to do is deflect the initial expulsion to be effective.

Do I think that it is as "sure-fire" as the dedicated cover, no way. Is the reality that it would deflect much of the expulsion. I think it would.

Thus my statement.


Raymond 09-19-2008
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If that's what you think it's designed for, then yes, you are correct in saying that a tarp and a transition cover are almost the same.

These things are designed to contain clamps-broken pieces of elbow--big potential flying objects etc...that's why they're made of the material that they are.  Our company has the field experience to prove this.  Sure, the spatter of a clamp coming apart will be contained with a tarp... but if the clamp gets violent - and blows apart, the tarp might not slow it down.

However, I will make a similar statement - that you have experience with....

The standard issue uniform jacket a soldier wears is almost the same as wearing a flak jacket.

Apples and oranges, right?  right.

I know you have no field experience with this - so you don't understand why I am so PRO-transition cover .  this is just one of the smartest, simple, effective safety features I've ever used.


Bob 09-19-2008
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I also think that the transition cover should be used on every operational pump that is out there every day.

Almost is a qualifier. like 'close'

and we all know that horse shoes and hand grenades need 'close' to count.

I am on your side 100% on this issue.

I don't need experience to recognize a great idea; just common sense.

I do know, first hand, the difference between uniform and flack jacket. ;~)