MikeC | 06-19-2009 | comment profile send pm notify |
Just curious what kind of value everyone would put on a mans word. Words are what Men (and Women) live by. Our constitution and even our bibles are just words. So how important is a mans word? If a man says I will not do X and you can count on my word as a man and then does X is he less of a man? This is not a political discussion but rather a philospohical one on the true value of mans word. What is it worth? |
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bigstick | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Our constitution was written by our forefathers as a guide to the new country laws and beliefs, that this new nation can thrive and become the greatest nation on earth simply because we dont have to an opressive government. Yes these are words, but some words have alot more meaning than others. We, as a nation left our Bible [also words, but actually the word of God not man} by the wayside, that is exactly why we are in the mess we are in. You have to believe in some mans word, but you also have to take a step back and wonder, am I making the right choice in life from what this man is saying to me? I know alot of people are not religous, but try using gods word on occasion as a guide from mans word. It has always worked for me. |
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Many | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Least not be confused.We can all live under different flags but it's ones word that makes a human.Some have that trait and some don't. Personally I would go to heck and back for a persons word.The others can go themselves. |
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180 flyer | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
"This is not a political discussion but rather a philospohical one on the true value of mans word. What is it worth?" - A man's word should be his bond. His credibility is measured in how he keeps his word and promises. It only takes one lie, one broken promise to reduce a person's credibility to zero. - "If a man says I will not do X and you can count on my word as a man and then does X is he less of a man?" - It is so easy, when asked a question we don't want to deal with, to tell a little white lie. Who is going to know? What differences will it make?
The first person who knows it is you. It may seem like a little thing, but it isn't. Your self-esteem and self-confidence are tied directly to your truthfulness. Each time you modify reality for personal gain your self-confidence is undermined. And, of course, there is that nagging concern that someone important will eventually find out that you lied.
Truth does have a way of rising to the surface. In some cases it takes hours. In others it may be years.
The second person to know is the first person who uncovers your lie. While they may brush it aside as unimportant this time, it still speaks to the character of your being. If you are willing to lie about the little things, what won't you lie about? - A little philosophy for the day. MikeC, I don't think your questions can ever fully be answered. What really matters is the value we put on our own words and promises.
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180 flyer | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
"Our constitution was written by our forefathers as a guide to the new country laws and beliefs," - Our constitution was written as a guide for laws, but not beliefs. Other than a democratic society, it in no way favors one belief system over another, nor was it meant to.------- And how do you make paragraphs on this board? Todd, how 'bout an upgrade to v.bulletin? |
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CretePumper | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I guess that would for myself depend on the man who put's his word on the line, and what his word is worth to him. A man's word to me is his bond and a man's word accompanied by a handshake is considered a contract as far as I am concerned. I take a man's word at face value until proven otherwise. Any man can put his word on the line to seal a deal, but a real man can and will back it up with his actions. My honest opinion is that " If a man stands for nothing, he will generally fall for anything". A man without solid foundation is a man subject to change and persuasion by the majority, without much considering the value of his own principles if he even has any of his own at all. Many men are quick to give it, but seems there's not too many who will stand behind it when it goes against the grain. |
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pudg | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
trust no one , the only person you can truly trust is ones self, it took me a long time to realize this but in this world a mans word isnt worth the breath it takes to speak it, there will be some that do stand behind what they say but how will you ever learn to trust when there are so few that are honorable enough to stand up and do what they say, I wish it was different but thats just the way it is,the only person you can trust is yourself, trust and have faith only in yourself and god and hopefully you wont be dissappointed very often, with god never, with yourself ? thats up to you ! as for the value, ummmm, about what a concrete pump is now, not much. |
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pudg | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
and one more,all peoples values and beliefs are different depending in what culture,religion,atmosphere they were raised in,mine I was raised poor but with christian values does this make my word anymore valuable to another mans ? only to me, each man has to determine the value of his own word, others cant put a value on it. |
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bigstick | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
How about reading the very first amandment of the constitution: Freedom of Religion so that no man or no one religion can be forced on another. No one said you had to be Christian, however I really dont think there were any Muslims or Hindues or Buddists in there. |
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TooTall | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Werd! |
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bigstick | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I am a HUGE fan of the US constitution especially number one and two, Can I get a big AMEN TooTall!!! |
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Todd | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Which one of us has never told a lie? How many lies does it take to become a liar? How many banks do you have to rob to become a bank robber?
Which one of us has never stolen anything in their life irregardless of its value? If there is a man out there that reads this and says he has never lied or stolen anything in his whole life I would have to say he is for sure a liar and not to be trusted.
I value a mans word very much but even those closest to me, the ones I love the very most who I cherish and would do anything in the world for end up lying to me once in a while. My kids are the worst, lol. My ex wife oh man you should of seen her lying in court.
Here is the bottom line for me. Men and Women are exceedingly evil by nature and nobody is good, not one of us. (that is Biblical by the way) Life is a war were evil will take over when men of character do nothing when evil presents its self.
A man who does his best to keep his word is a man of character but even the best of men still lie, cheat and deceive. Only a prideful man will say he does not lie, that he always keeps his word and says he has never blown it.
If everyone could see the thoughts that we have nobody would like anybody.
For some reason people in power, people who have money people above us we tend to think they are more honorable but in reality they are all more like homer Simpson than we would all like to believe. |
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Mudslinger | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
"I own nothing but my self-respect and my word"- Anonymous |
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toper | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
heres food for thought, i my self have suffered from hoof in mouth disease, when i left my job for another (after 2 weeks notice and all) i swore to just about evrything (forgive me dad) that no way would i ever come back, but just 10 mths later, here i am ,here and now, i dont think its about his word, as much as it is about a mans character, you got to know him to understand his reasons, for whatever decisions he makes. if u dont know him all u can say is hes known to break is word, but if u know him, then u can say ,well why did he break, or go back on his word, case and point, myself, a much more wiser,experienced and humble man i am now due to breaking my word, so for my 2cents(or less at times) its a mans character that makes him, not his word. |
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Many | 06-19-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
An interesting question indeed Just curious what kind of value everyone would put on a mans word. It says much about the person,pretty simple isn't it? Words are what Men (and Women) live by. Our constitution and even our bibles are just words. So how important is a mans word? First and formost.I certainly wouldn't want to put my a** on the line for a loser.I got your back,yeah right pinhead.I promise I will stay awake on guard duty,hehehe. If a man says I will not do X and you can count on my word as a man and then does X is he less of a man. probably,called spinless. This is not a political discussion but rather a philospohical one on the true value of mans word. What is it worth? everything Personally I would go to heck and back for a persons word.The others can go themselves. just the facts |