mudcup | 12-06-2009 | comment profile send pm notify |
I always suck back a sponge about a section and a !/2 that's how I always did it . Want to see if u guys have any thoughts on this matter |
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pumper chuck | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
depends on how far i have to move and if folding up outriggers all the way.if job site is a obstacle course suck ball all the way back ,open 90 and remove before setting back up,once setup is complete pump a little in bucket close 90 and pump on. |
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mudcup | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
ok so suck all the way back and open up ass end remove sponge that's a good idea i only had 1 problem with moving, the sponge was 2 wet when i sucked it back it sucked the water out of the sponge and got a rock block where else but in the tip hose no boom party lucky me |
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johnjohnjohn | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
all the way back in texas. the hot air and soft ground make for time consuming re-set's. |
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mudcup | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I haven't seen a need to suck it all the pay back yet here in jersey I learned from my mistake don't get the sponge to wet.I run a 32-38m putz i can break down and set back up in about 15-25min. |
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pumper chuck | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
hey mud cup thats the reason i open the 90 and remove the sponge .i once had the same result you did.what a mess. |
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Step Brother | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Always always suck one back the whole way. God forbid you break a U-Joint or get stuck in the move. And deffinatly open it up and take the sponge out. Ive known people to just pump it out, i did that too being lazy until the day it almost got stuck, whipped the hose and shot 100'. No one was near it but yes 100 feet. Wet sponge or dry shouldnt have mattered i dont get that one. |
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jticp | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I always check out where the next setup is first to make sure everything is out of the way, I leave 3/4 a hopper full if the mud is still good then kink the 4" towards the truck tie it with wire and put a rag and a 4" gasket over the end of the hose so that nothing drips out then fold it up and move, and once I set back up i recirculate for a minute or two depending if there is a truck there or not |
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fred82 | 12-06-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
same as jticp |
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dlee7729 | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
After I say "what do you mean I have to move the pump."I just suck it back and cap it if I am using a double ended hose tied into system. out of the boom with a single end hose I suck a ball back . Then I fold up completely and move . I have at times left the outriggers out when moving on very hard and level ground with a spotter. But the boom is always folded up. I always check to see if my new stop is clear of debris , equipment etc., . My record is moving a 36m schwing 12 times in one day . happened at the ford rouge plant in dearborn mi. pumping for walbridge. be safe. |
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Joemal | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Same as jticp and fred82 |
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Telealbelt | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
If its a short move I'll take off hose and put a ball and blow out cap on and fold up and pull in outriggers. If anything goes wrong I can blow the boom out. |
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toper | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
i got one, never sucked a sponge, why? thats the way i was trained. i first and foremost check the reset up location, make sure theres mudd left in the truck (mixer) then pump all the way down, give my hopper a good rinsing, reverse as much as i can then fold up and move, i've had times when the reset up took a little too long and the wet mudd in my hopper help reprime,notto mention the pipes are mostly empty, may sound complicated but thats the way i was trained ;) |
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Pump N00b | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Same as jticp, fred82 and joemal |
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b-alto | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I would never fold up with mud in my pipes, again. Had to move once, wound up being 1/4 mile through the woods. The mud in the pipes all got viberated down to a hard pack. Had one hell of a boom party! I just suck it all back then move. |
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mudcup | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
If something goes wrong on the move I'll just pop it off with air a pump guys best friend |
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crete | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I just run the belts empty pick up outriggers and move what's the big deal?(lol) Terry |
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Step Brother | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
only takes a min to suck a ball, 3 min to open it take it out, wipe it off and close it back up, boom partys take how long? Maybe im just gunshy, but ive still never used air. Diff strokes for diff folks. Im to lazy for shortcuts going wrong |
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Telealbelt | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Terry, better beat on those scaper blades so you keep running clean machine. lol |
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b-alto | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
Its not much fun climbing out on your extended boom and taking off the second set of elbows and trying to get the mud to blow through. Much easier sucking back. |
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41bones | 12-07-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I pump my hopper down, reverse it till it bubbles, then fold and move. oh yeah before moving might throw a little water on top of mud to keep it alive |
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yard whore | 12-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
DEPENDING ON HOW FAR, RECIRCULATE CLOSE THE AIR CUFF, OR FOLD UP THE HOSE, FOLD UP AND MOVE DEPENDING ON GROUND CONDITIONS AND A SPOTTER SOMETIMES ILL MOVE WITH THE O.R OUT. |
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biged | 12-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
I like cretes idea ,line pumping get a bunch of pullers and go, with the boom which I had to do once sucked all back to the hopper put in water a mix while I fold everything up, take her out of pump gear move to new site put in pump gear add water to hopper then reset riggers then boom start pumping till it pops out. |
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16 CELL | 12-08-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
on our Putzmeisters with the air-cuff setup factory installed, the air-cuff will release as soon as the pump is taken out of PTO, or the engine is turned off... don't learn the hard way like I did, fold and rope it... |
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chongliyan | 12-09-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
same with fred82 |
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Justapumper | 12-10-2009 | reply profile send pm notify |
It really depends on how far I am moving. If it is on the site then I just fold or, cap the tip hose and move. If I have to leave the site and go any distance over 1/2 mile then it is suck it back and, clean it out. This is especially true if I will not have the mud following me. Now I have run wet but, only if my last truck was going to be following me and, the mud was not hot. I had one customer and the concrete company get mad because my last truck was going back to the plant to get batched on top which would have required me to hold the mud for nearly another hour, after it took nearly an hour to get rid of what I did. But as I look at it how angry would they have become if I was plugged with hot mud and, not able to do the job. My boss backed me up on my decision. |