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angie 12-04-2012
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420 volt line on pole and ground.

Mister_Perkins 12-04-2012
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looks like it would be a good job for a trailer pump


angie 12-04-2012
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I agree, but would you pump it, if you  had to be at times only a foot away from that line?


biged 12-04-2012
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I would say NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,


MVCP 12-04-2012
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Is it insulated wire? What about 2 hoses where you need to be far enough away and drop the extra after you can keep a safe distance. Hard to judge by photo but ultimately operator makes the call.

baddassduramax 12-04-2012
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420 volt? are you in the usa?  looks to be secondary, secondary is insulated. if its secondary, it is 120/240 or just 120. i could be wrong. if its 120/240 secondary insulated, i would not be worried at all.


pumpjockey 12-04-2012
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420 volts?  From the transformer to the service, I'd say it is an insulated line, especially as low to the ground as it is.  Shouldn't be a problem, but as much caution as you can take, do so.  A call to the power company a couple days before the pour would be prudent as well.


Mister_Perkins 12-04-2012
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I always play it safe. Might be because i'm new in the pumping game, but I feel like its the safest way to do it (trailer pump). Thats what I would have done anyways. But every operator has their own comfort level, and experience, so i suppose that could change the decision as well.

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Telealbelt 12-04-2012
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Belt job. $$$$


angie 12-04-2012
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I have to admit I know little to nothing about electricity, I am only relaying the information about the line I was given by the Forman, almost all of our jobs are prepoured by a sales rep days before, however I was not comfortable with getting that close to any live line. but what really gets me is when my company called the contra tor for payment after the pour and asked why the line was not mentioned during booking, the contractor tried to tell the office it was a cable line! Then he had the nerve to tell them to send a "real Man" to do the job next time! that really really pissed me off as I know some of our senior operators said they would of refused the pour, I guess I just wanted some more opinions on it.

thinksnow 12-04-2012
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MOST OF THE TIME CONTRACTOR WILL NEVER EVEN SAY ANYTHINGS IN THE WAY . 99%  OF THE TIME IF A BOOM SHOWS UP A BOOM WILL PUMP IT. YOU CAN WRITE WHAT YOU WANT BUT ALOT OF US WILL DO IT ! LAY THE BOOM DOWN DRAG THE LINE IDK. THAT DONT LOOK LIKE NO 420 LINE. AND BESIDES WTF IS THAT POLE BEING POURED AROUND THEY IN THAT MUCH OF A HURRY  YOU CANT EVEN PARK THEIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mister_Perkins 12-04-2012
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don't try to be the hero is great Advice I got when I first started. just stick to your gut and if your gut says bad idea then it probably is.

Dont need one 12-04-2012
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 Forget the wire in the air, look at the wire above the concrete, what hapeens if its spliced and someone walks by and kicks it loose. FRIED FINISHER> I wonder what that would smell like.


angie 12-05-2012
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I may not know much about electricity, but what I do know is regardless of the voltage my boom will act as a conductor building static electricity from that line, also the wire above the concrete was spliced! however concerte was already on site so against my better judgment I did the pour confident in my ability to make it work....I got lucky in truth. but when I jumped on dispatch an in trun they jumped on the contractor for not mentioning the lime during booking, he lied and said it was a temporary cable line, then had the nerve to say "next time send a REAL MAN" Grrrrrr that really pissed me off as if a MAN would have done the pour without concern! I guess I should be used to the ignorance of some people, but I don't often have to deal with such obvious bigotry!

Deaner 12-05-2012
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Here's a good chart that gives you an idea of how close you can get to live power lines with your boom.

 

www.bchydro.com/safety/workplace_safety/limits_of_approach.html

 

you'll notice that there is no mention of voltage below 750V. I'm not sure why they don't list that but seeing as how you can safely approach 75kV to 10ft, you should have no problem laying down a 20ft whip hose to get the concrete placed while keeping your boom the minimum 10ft distance from the power line at all times. 

My opinion is, and what I tell operators that I train, is that if you don't feel safe doing it then don't. It is simply not worth an injury or death just to get the job done. If the contractor is absolutey adamant that I do something I know to be dangerous, I call my boss and fold up my boom. It just isn't worth it. I also find that if you compromise on safety once, you are more likely to do it again. You might get away with it for awhile but it will catch up with you eventually.

Peace

 

Deaner

 

Peace.


Dont need one 12-06-2012
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 Some contractors are ASSHOLES and very STUPID. Just remember YOU are the responsible party no matter how stupid they are, and you can be held criminally responsibal in a court of law. About his comment, I wipe smarter shit off my ass then he is. If your still looking for work in Colorado I dont think anybody would discreminate.


angie 12-07-2012
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Thank you, don't need one, I appreciate that, my son got a het offer to play football here so my plans for Denver have been possibly delayed by 3.5 yrs, but I'm counting the days till I'm free of the Texas heat! :)