who else has been told this ?
OE Local 3 03-26-2008
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  A Ready-mix Driver from Cemex told me today I could not pump back into him after finishing the pour.I thought he was joking around , but then he showed me the memo he recieved from management. Just curious if this is a corporate thing or a local deal.There is a small family owned company in the bay area that has been doing this for quite some time now.

 

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p.s.  Trinity and Tanner wanted to see their picture back up again , for the Dads out there , you can understand. The sound affects they made were so funny, especially Trinity with the tip hose slurping.  LOL,LOL.

 

 

 


Raymond 03-26-2008
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I had a Cemex (formerly Rinker) guy say that too.  I didn't get to see a document, but he said it's in the works.  Eco-Pan's gonna love those guys.

Larchy 03-26-2008
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I've had the same experience with Rinker for the past few years now too, but the last time I worked with them was right after Cemex took over and the drivers were letting me. I've also found it depends on the driver, some of them really enjoy the power trip of saying no, while others don't care. It all stems from a driver geting hurt when the hose blew out of the drum pumping back in.


oregonfan6285 03-27-2008
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i water washed back into a cemex truck today here in vegas. havent heard anything about it. the drivers here are pretty cool tho so they might of got the memo but let me pump back into them anyway.

Weave 03-27-2008
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I've had the hose come out before. I was not going to do it but the driver just said shove it in. Needless to say it did'nt work out for his truck. Normally i would have put on cap and taken it off before putting the reducer all the way in.


Mr.Smooth 03-27-2008
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Just talked to batch man in Yuba City plant he says he hasn't seen any memo about that up here in nor cal.

Nate 03-27-2008
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Here in Colorado, there is one mixer company that charges $150 to pump back into them..... Makes me wonder what we should charge them to wash-out into us....

Bob 03-27-2008
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Nate

Your plan works for me. Chute washout charge, yea!


ftworth58 03-27-2008
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Here in Texas that is company policy for all redimix trucks,just as is they cant wash out in our hoppers.Contractors have ask us to do it,but it is a rare thing.

Oregon Pumper 03-27-2008
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i haven't heard of that one yet. i just pumped back into a cemex truck today. there are a few redi-mix companies here that charge to pump back into them.


Tracy 03-28-2008
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Nate who is the readi mix company that charges in Colorado, we have had the same problem in the past so I cut a deal with the concrete companies that we would let them wash into us if we got to wash back in to them if a wash out was not provided! We are located in summit County, Colorado.

Lee82 03-28-2008
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well if we had pump operators that didnt stick the hose all the way  and get caught by the fins(like someone did)we could probably still do that here in dallas... . If the driver knows ya they will usually let u anyway

Larchy 03-28-2008
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Sorry Lee, I have to disagree with you there. The danger comes from not sticking the hose in far enough. With the angle of the hose into the truck it creates a belly so that when the force of the concrete comes out it'll peel it right out of the truck. I've never had a hose get stuck in a drum, they get nicked up a bit but no harm. Bury it to the hair boys. Aint that right OE 3.

desertrat 03-29-2008
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i had a hose (single ended) get caught up in fins that were coming loose in the drum.had to reverse the drum several revs to get it untangled. i put the hose in about ten feet pump the hopperdown then lift it out to see if water is dripping from the hose ,it also helps any rock or sand fall out of the hose then back in the truck for a little more water.i always keep a very close eye on the hose any grunts or hops and i hit the off switch.

 


Generation 3 Pumper 03-30-2008
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My opinion on the safest way to prime, pumpout, or waterwash into a mixer is to simply just take your tip hose off. In our region, our standard hose is a 3 1/2" so this increases the probability of the hose jumping out of the mixer. Why not take the extra safety precaution and simply take off your flexible hose at the end of your boom?

Nate 04-02-2008
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Down here in Denver, LaFarge charges $150... It depends on the driver, but about %90 stick to the policy.... About %80 percent of the batch plants charge a washout fee if you wash your hopper out.... If they let you washout there at all....