Yes the ground gave way???? Could this happen to you???
Todd 12-13-2010
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz71eVreMDc

pink panther 12-13-2010
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That will make your heart race and reach for some toilet paper.

52putz 12-13-2010
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HOLY HOLY CRAP!!

AK1 12-13-2010
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can you say bad day wow

Seed 12-13-2010
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Violent!

Todd 12-14-2010
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you see the operator getting tossed out? crazy stuff.

CaSsE 12-14-2010
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Damn, i dunno why someone would place their outriggers there. Even good dunnage cant help u there :-/

Many 12-14-2010
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If one looks close,the guy with radio looks right at cracking ground before it went over.

ruck 12-14-2010
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Todd can you email that.

Not sure how to pull it off here. I need to show this to a buddy.

Thanks Ruck


Dipstick 12-14-2010
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Wonder why he doesn't just drop the load full speed when it started to crack up. But than again... Who expects it to give way this much. SCARY!!!!

Dipstick 12-14-2010
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It's hard to tell on a video but it looks to me like a bad setup. They where to close to the edge. (like in the 1-2 rule)

SUPERDOFFER 12-14-2010
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At 0.15 the radio men already looks at the crack that was the point they shoot have cleared the site and dropped the load


Granddad 12-14-2010
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  Myself personally think the operator did some quick thinking to swing the boom out of the way of all the workers.  Bad setup or not he had time to bail but chose to ride it out and get the boom someplace where it wouldn't kill someone.

SUPERDOFFER 12-15-2010
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Granddad: on a boom pump that is indeed the best thing you can do. On a crane however by turning with a load the pressure on the bad outriggers is increasing because of the counterweight


Dipstick 12-15-2010
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He wasn't swinging the boom any where. The weight of the counterweight is just pulling so hard it is making the boom swing. Even the brake can't hold that.

Granddad 12-16-2010
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 I agree with you on both points but have to disagree with you on the swing brake yes at some point the counterweight will take over but look closer at the operator and you can see his left hand trying to pull that joystick into his left knee.  The machine was going over no matter what once that first rigger gave way.


Many 12-16-2010
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Swing brake and swing lock,both methods to hold the turntable.As in concrete pumps they can only hold so much,the swing lock dogs the turntable,however they can fail as well.One can hear the drums freewheel as it turned.

Lessons learned,the 1 to 1 rule,spotter should have had load dropped RFN.


Dipstick 12-16-2010
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Hey many. I hear more people here talk about a 1 to 1 rule. But isn't it a 1 to 2 rule? That's what it is here in europe at least. And what all the manufacturers prescribe.. 1 to 1 sounds like way to litlle to me. 

Many 12-16-2010
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In part from the acpa

NOTE!

Measurement for the one-to-one rule shall

be made from the edge of the outrigger pad

nearest the excavation, and the distance

from the edge should be increased if soil

conditions appear unstable, if the jobsite

authorities indicate the soil conditions are

unstable, or if the manufacturer's recommendation

is more restrictive.

http://www.concretepumpers.com/pdfs/05002_outriggers.pdf

Some good refresher reading.Although it appeared the crane was in complience,thought should hve been given to the fill.Most important is the cracking ground was evident to more than one person,it broke to the blind side of operator.The spotter with radio should have dropped the load post haste,not try to bring it back to the bank.Just might have saved his bacon.


Dipstick 12-19-2010
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Strange that the rules vary so much than. It's quite a difference 1-1 or 1-2

I agree on the last thing you sayd. Should have droped the load in the river ASAP and it would most likely saved his ass. But like way to many the spotter was probbably thinking it would work out..


SUPERDOFFER 12-20-2010
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Been talking whit the crane boys in our comp. Turning whit the load was a very bad idea. The good thing of this video is that it can be used as a learning device.